gods-wrathChicago Cubs reliever Pedro Strop left last night’s appearance mid-outing with the team’s trainer, so you knew something was up. Moreover, he was getting shellacked after throwing four straight scoreless frames previously. Once again, it seemed like something was up.

That something turned out to be a groin injury that’s been bothering him for almost a week, which he originally felt troubling him while doing lunges working out (Cubs.com). Strop had been getting treatment (he had pitched once since then), and hoped to avoid a disabled list stint. He’ll now head for an MRI to see if there’s going to be a need.

Strop said he had trouble throwing his slider (his wipeout pitch) last night, because he would feel the discomfort every time he tried to rotate his body. So there’s your potential explanation for the struggles last night. You don’t want a guy to be injured, but you also don’t want him to be flat out ineffective.

If Strop does have to hit the DL, the Cubs will have the choice to bring back Zac Rosscup, or to call up another minor league reliever for a look-see. Alternatively, the Cubs could go back to seven relievers, and bring up a position player (Josh Vitters is currently raking at AAA, so maybe it’s time to see what he could do in a regular big league role?).

  • itzscott

    Love how none of this stuff is known or that a reliever has nothing during warm ups and its only after a reliever is brought in, torched and the game lost that this stuff suddenly becomes news.

    • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

      Well, if the treatment he was receiving allowed him to pitch, there was no real reason to disclose or discuss it publicly. Most players have some kind of pain at some point in the year, but most of that never comes up because it doesn’t require attention in-game or a DL stint. This did.

      • DarthHater

        Come on, Brett. You should be down there in the bullpen during warm-ups, reporting on each guy’s stuff that day.

    • baldtaxguy

      “Strop was getting treatment in hopes of not having to go on the disabled list.”

      A known injury, occurring 5 days ago, and we put him in a 1-run ballgame? I’m not saying baby him, but there are other opportunities to test out his injury. Ricky?

      • itzscott

        Exactly. They have a 13 man staff for God’s sake. An ailing Strop was the best option? Especially when it was apparent he had nothing as soon as they trotted him out? But they left him in anyway?

        • baldtaxguy

          This is where we can plug in the FO conspiracy theory for the top pick.

          The grassy knoll is Strop’s groin.

          • itzscott

            More than anything this is yet another example of why this franchise is regularly cited as one of the dumbest franchises in sports yet folks on this board get bent out of shape and take it personally when they read that stuff even though they see it before their very own eyes and it’s indefensible.

            • http://www.friendly-confines.com hansman

              Regularly cited as the dumbest franchise by whom?

              Folks like you?


            • DarthHater

              “folks on this board get bent out of shape and take it personally when they read assholish comments”


      • Pepitones wig

        wow. I really don’t understand a lot of things about this manager.

  • baldtaxguy

    “Josh Vitters is currently raking at AAA, so maybe it’s time to see what he could do in a regular big league role?”

    I know he is 4 out of his last 11 and those 4 are home runs, but he is also 5 out of his last 36 and batting .210. I’m so down on him and tired of the peaks and valleys with his performance, I would expect ANY time is appropriate to bring him up or ANY time is appropriate send him to Tenn or just release him. I believe he should get that one final shot, give him 200 PA’s in Chicago, see where he ends up, and make a freaking final decision on him. Following him over these years has infuriated me.

    • gocatsgo2003

      Why do we have to make a final decision and why does it need to be right now?

      • baldtaxguy

        Well, the final decision needs to be made at season’s end, not “right now.” Did I state that?

        And the reason is that he represents a 40-man roster spot that is currently more valuable than him.

      • Chad

        I think that is why you give him the 200 PAs so you can make a decision at the end. I’m not sure releasing him is the answer, I would do that with BJax before Vitters. I hope he gets a shot to show something.

        • gocatsgo2003

          And what would be the utility in releasing either of them?

          • Chad

            Well they both take up 40 man roster spots which at the end of the year could be needed for rule 5 players or better players the cubs want to add to the roster. If they will not be helpful to the cubs why keep them on the team? It might be more fair to them to let them leave an organization they don’t have a chance in for a fresh start elsewhere.

    • DrReiCow

      He’s only 24… it’d be a bit early to make a freaking final decision, given his potential.


      • Chad

        He may be 24, but he’s been in the system for 7 years. He’s had a lot of injuries, but give him some time in Chicago to see if he can actually do anything and then make a decision. If the cubs don’t think he’ll ever be a part of the team then let him have a chance somewhere else to try to catch on.

      • Kyle

        24 isn’t too early to make a decision on a player. I don’t know where people got this idea.

        • J

          I think mgmt has made a decision on Vitters – just not the one people want to hear. In their view, he’s just another guy and if he gets a chance that’s fine.

    • http://www.friendly-confines.com hansman

      You realize all batters go through peaks and valleys?

      Last year Joey Votto had a 38 PA streak with a .439 OPS.

      WHAT A BUM!!!!

      • Jon

        Are you comparing Vitters to Votto ?

        • gocatsgo2003

          No he’s not. He’s making the point that even some of the best hitters in the game go through rough patches without comparing the two hitters directly.

        • http://fullcount1544.blogspot.com FullCountTommy

          Yes, direct comparison. Vitters has talent equal to or exceeding that of Votto

        • http://www.friendly-confines.com hansman

          Yes. Vitters is the next Votto.

  • http://www.survivingthalia.com Mike Taylor

    I’d rather give Alcantara a look, he’s already on the 40-man, and his last ten games he’s put up: .286/.302/.429, 2 SB / 1 CS, 2 2B, 2 3B, 6 RBI.

    • http://www.survivingthalia.com Mike Taylor

      Vitters is on the 40-man as well. Don’t know why I worded it like he wasn’t.

    • http://www.friendly-confines.com hansman

      A .731 OPS over the last 10 games isn’t a ringing endorsement for a guy in AAA in a hitter friendly league.

      • Kyle

        Especially when it’s a SLG-heavy OPS.

        • SenorGato

          And hes a LF/1B only defender at this point.

      • Brocktoon

        And Those have gotta be worse than his season numbers, why the 10 game cutoff to prove the point? And even the season numbers are fairly mediocre considering the hitters league he’s in

  • http://fullcount1544.blogspot.com FullCountTommy


    • itzscott

      Make this season interesting….. Bring up Vitters, put him behind Olt in the lineup and have a contest to see who can swing and miss more.

      • http://fullcount1544.blogspot.com FullCountTommy

        Vitters’ career K rate in the minors: 16%
        Olt’s career K rate in the minors: 26.2%

        Good try though

        • itzscott

          Hey Tommy…

          In 109 plate appearances with the Cubs, Vitters struck out 33 times for a K rate of 30.3%

          In 399 major league plate appearances Mike Olt has struck out 150 times for a K rate of 37.6%

          I’d say an Olt/Vitters K contest would be close and worth watching.

          Nice try defending him though.

          • college_of_coaches

            There’s so much wrong in this response, itzamazing.

            • http://fullcount1544.blogspot.com FullCountTommy

              Haha soooo much wrong. We all know that 109 and 400 PA samples are much more telling than 2,300 and 1,500 PA samples

              • itzscott

                There’s nothing wrong with that response.

                Wasn’t 100 PAs said to be the magic number (see the piece about Bryant reaching 100 PAs)…. so now it’s suddenly not because it doesn’t fit your premise?

                • http://fullcount1544.blogspot.com FullCountTommy

                  Do you know how statistics work?? Sure, Bryant’s numbers might start to normalize around the 100 PA mark, but if we had a 2,500 PA sample of Bryant saying something else, then that would be more telling than the 100 PA sample. The larger the sample, the more normalized statistics become, pretty simple.

  • another JP

    Probably Parker unless they want to alter the makeup of the roster. Need more offense and Watkins has best numbers of anyone on the 40 man roster. .. perhaps Valaika would be worth bringing up.

    • Brocktoon

      Valaika costs a 40 man spot and if Parker is called up he won’t be able to be sent down after 5/17 without clearing optional assignment waivers

  • Diehardthefirst

    Latest rumor- Yanks gave Cubs list of 15 minor leaguers and told Cubs to pick 10 for Shark Hammel and Bonifacio

    • http://fullcount1544.blogspot.com FullCountTommy

      I want whatever drugs you’re on, they must be AMAZING

      • Diehardthefirst

        Check Bleacher Report which is competitor but keep friends close and foes closer

        • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

          You are a treasure. Never change.

          • gocatsgo2003

            Now you’re encouraging him a little too obviously…

          • http://fullcount1544.blogspot.com FullCountTommy


      • Fishin Phil

        It’s not so much the drugs he is taking, it’s the ones he forgets to take.

        • scorecardpaul

          Phil, best post ever

    • Chad

      Cubs need at least 12 of them. No deal.

  • cubsfaninca

    You didn’t say they were Yankee minor leaguers, just a list of minor leaguers. I’ll start with Byron Buxton, Oscar Tavares, Johnathan Gray and work my way down. They can’t have Bonifacio though. Barney or no deal.

    • Nashville Andrew

      Agreed… Buxton isn’t worth Bonifacio. Definitely has to be Barney. If they hold our feet to the fire maybe we can trade Watkins instead.

  • mudge

    The whole team is having some groin pains.

  • http://deepcenterfield.mlblogs.com/ Jason Powers

    Its groinin’ out of them thats gonna take some nuts and some guts…and a trade or three..

    In a Cubs dream I had we sent Rizzo, Castro, Castillo and Samardzija to the Angels for Mike Trout and Tyler Skaggs. Then I woke up…then end.

  • aa.

    With the DH the next two games, it’s probably as good a time as any to bring up Vitters, put him in the line-up and see what he does – especially with the lefty throwing tonight.

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