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#1 Tommy

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 09:40 PM

So we were having a discussion about Tony Campana and his value, and also his base stealing prowess so I decided to run some numbers. I grabbed the top 40 base stealers from this year (total bases stolen) and calculated their success rate. After doing this and sorting them out, it looks like Campana came out tied for 4th with a success rate of 90.91% (this is just his numbers from the majors this year).

The questions we were discussing were whether or not this makes him worthy of a roster spot, and whether his ability here is enough to overcome his shortcomings everywhere else, etc.

Just thought I'd get some conversation going here and see how everyone feels about it. My personal feelings as I stated on the front boards are that he has too much value as a proven capable, albeit extremely average (at best) hitter at the MLB level along with his base stealing prowess to let go without getting something in return. As shown in the chart below, he had 30 SB's in only 174 AB's and with only 46 hits, which I think is pretty unbelievable.

I'd like to hear what everyone else feels about him.

Sorry for the formatting below. I couldn't figure out how to copy and paste it from Excel and have it show up properly. It kept re-formatting on me.


RK PLAYER TEAM AB H SB CS Success Rate
1 Alexi Casilla MIN 299 72 21 1 95.45%
2 Desmond Jennings TB 505 124 31 2 93.94%
3 Everth Cabrera SD 398 98 44 4 91.67%
4 Emilio Bonifacio MIA 244 63 30 3 90.91%
5 Tony Campana CHC 174 46 30 3 90.91%
6 Mike Trout LAA 559 182 49 5 90.74%
7 Coco Crisp OAK 455 118 39 4 90.70%
8 Alcides Escobar KC 605 177 35 5 87.50%
9 Shane Victorino LAD/PHI 595 152 39 6 86.67%
10 Carlos Gomez MIL 415 108 37 6 86.05%
11 Jimmy Rollins PHI 632 158 30 5 85.71%
12 Jarrod Dyson KC 292 76 30 5 85.71%
13 Juan Pierre PHI 394 121 37 7 84.09%
14 Michael Saunders SEA 507 125 21 4 84.00%
15 B.J. Upton TB 573 141 31 6 83.78%
16 Ben Revere MIN 511 150 40 9 81.63%
17 Jason Kipnis CLE 591 152 31 7 81.58%
18 Gregor Blanco SF 393 96 26 6 81.25%
19 Ryan Braun MIL 598 191 30 7 81.08%
20 Drew Stubbs CIN 493 105 30 7 81.08%
21 Ichiro Suzuki NYY/SEA 629 178 29 7 80.56%
22 Angel Pagan SF 605 174 29 7 80.56%
23 Will Venable SD 417 110 24 6 80.00%
24 Alex Rios CHW 605 184 23 6 79.31%
25 Norichika Aoki MIL 520 150 30 8 78.95%
26 Cameron Maybin SD 507 123 26 7 78.79%
27 Jose Reyes MIA 642 184 40 11 78.43%
28 Rajai Davis TOR 447 115 46 13 77.97%
29 Ian Desmond WSH 513 150 21 6 77.78%
30 Michael Bourn ATL 624 171 42 13 76.36%
31 Dee Gordon LAD 303 69 32 10 76.19%
32 Jose Altuve HOU 576 167 33 11 75.00%
33 Jordan Schafer HOU 313 66 27 9 75.00%
34 Hanley Ramirez LAD/MIA 604 155 21 7 75.00%
35 Shin-Soo Choo CLE 598 169 21 7 75.00%
36 Jason Heyward ATL 587 158 21 8 72.41%
37 Ian Kinsler TEX 655 168 21 9 70.00%
38 Alejandro De Aza CHW 524 147 26 12 68.42%
39 Elvis Andrus TEX 629 180 21 10 67.74%
40 Starlin Castro CHC 646 183 25 13 65.79%
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 10:46 PM

The complete lack of any other skill just kills him. His bat will never be anywhere close to league-average because of a complete lack of power and no batting eye. Speed helps cover up his terrible jumps and routes in the OF, and his arm is so weak he looks like he's throwing with the wrong one.

If the FO thinks his .5-1 win he will add as a PR is worth a roster spot, then fine -but he certainly shouldn't be getting regular AB's.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 04:59 AM

yeah but what about his grit?

in all seriousness he's an okay 5th/6th outfielder to have as cheap organizational depth in case somebody gets injured but Dave Sappelt showed enough at the end of the season to show he's a capable 4th outfielder and can take Reed Johnson's old job in the majors. With LaHair as the backup 1B/Corner Outfielder I don't see a spot for him especially since they're probably going to sign another outfielder this offseason.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 07:01 AM

My thoughts:
  • He is a one tool player (albeit that one tool is exceptional).
  • If he can make it as the 25th man I'm fine with it this year.
  • He has to be all that much better on the bases since everyone in the stadium know he is going to steal if he is on base.
  • I'm surprised he never tried to steal home.
  • He has more HRs than I will ever have (and that makes me sad).

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 10:10 AM

I not only think he should have a roster spot, but I think he should start in Center next year, unless we add upton. When he got regular playing time last year, he produced. He was then undeservingly demoted for a complete watse of a roster spot, Joe Mather, and he never started hitting again. If we come into the season with Soriano, Dejesus, Campana, Sappelt and nobody else better, then he should be the starter.

Even if we sign Upton, then we should explore trading Dejesus, and keep Campana. His speed in the lineup would be tremendous.

Campana
Castro
Upton
Rizzo
Soriano
Castillo
Any 3B
Barney

Not a bad lineup if we can find a 1st baseman.
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Posted 13 November 2012 - 01:53 PM

I not only think he should have a roster spot, but I think he should start in Center next year, unless we add upton. When he got regular playing time last year, he produced. He was then undeservingly demoted for a complete watse of a roster spot, Joe Mather, and he never started hitting again. If we come into the season with Soriano, Dejesus, Campana, Sappelt and nobody else better, then he should be the starter.

Even if we sign Upton, then we should explore trading Dejesus, and keep Campana. His speed in the lineup would be tremendous.

Campana
Castro
Upton
Rizzo
Soriano
Castillo
Any 3B
Barney

Not a bad lineup if we can find a 1st baseman.


No, ick, you don't put a .308 OBP at the top of the lineup and you certainly do NOT trade DeJesus to make room for Campana.

Looking at wOBA:

2012 Campana: .273
2012 DeJesus: .332
2012 Upton, B: .323
2012 Upton, J: .341

While DeJesus aint all that and a bag of chips, he is a MUCH better option than Campana.




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