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Wil Myers vs Anthony Rizzo's numbers:
Started By Mike Taylor (no relation), Nov 30 2012 07:31 PM
4 replies to this topic
#1
Posted 30 November 2012 - 07:31 PM
Rizzo in 2012
vs LT 080 AB, 13 R, 025 H, 04 2B, 0 3B, 08 HR, 22 RBI, 05 BB, 19 SO, .313/.368/.663/1.030
vs RT 177 AB, 35 R, 063 H, 14 2B, 2 3B, 15 HR, 40 RBI, 18 BB, 33 SO, .356/.421/.712/1.133
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Total 257 AB, 48 R, 088 H, 18 2B, 2 3B, 23 HR, 62 RBI, 23 BB, 52 SO, .342/.405/.696/1.101
Myers in 2012
vs LT 095 AB, 16 R, 027 H, 06 2B, 2 3B, 06 HR, 15 RBI, 11 BB, 28 SO, .284/.358/.579/0.937
vs RT 293 AB, 50 R, 091 H, 09 2B, 3 3B, 18 HR, 64 RBI, 34 BB, 70 SO, .311/.384/.546/0.930
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Total 388 AB, 66 R, 118 H, 15 2B, 5 3B, 24 HR, 79 RBI, 45 BB, 98 SO, .304/.378/.554/0.932
Both teams played for are in the PCL.
Rizzo 08.1 BB%, 18.3 K%, 0.44 BB/K, .354 ISO, 10 GDP
Myers 10.3 BB%, 22.3 K%, 0.46 BB/K, .250 ISO, 07 GDP
When entering MLB, Rizzo's ISO dropped about half, his average dropped 57 points, but surprisingly, his k rate dropped. If Myer's ISO is cut in half and his average drops 57 points when he arrives in the big leagues, he'd be comparable to Stephen Drew/Kirk Nieuwenhuis, but hopes to put up numbers like Rizzo.
Drew in 2012
79 G, 327 PA, 64 H, 07 HR, 38 R, 28 RBI, 11.3% BB, 23.2% K, .223/.309/.348/.657
Rizzo in 2012
87 G, 368 PA, 96 H, 15 HR, 44 R, 48 RBI, 07.3% BB, 16.8% K, .285/.342/.463/.805
This is a guy we can target and give up something significant for (because he's young and there's room for improvement), especially coming from a franchise that isn't flexible on their payroll. Jeff Francoeur has one more year on his contract, he performed horribly last year. If we were to make a direct trade with the Royals, I think we'd need to take him (hey, we need a RF'er) and Bruce Chen off of their hands to acquire Myers. That would leave enough money for them to take on Garza's estimated arbitration salary in 2013 and leaves us a few pieces we may be able to flip at the deadline, or right away.
I think the Twins would be interested for a year of Chen. There's rumors of a Liriano reunion, but he'll want more money than what they're willing to spend. Delivering them Chen solves that problem, especially for one year, $4.5M [or free if we get a better prospect(s)].
vs LT 080 AB, 13 R, 025 H, 04 2B, 0 3B, 08 HR, 22 RBI, 05 BB, 19 SO, .313/.368/.663/1.030
vs RT 177 AB, 35 R, 063 H, 14 2B, 2 3B, 15 HR, 40 RBI, 18 BB, 33 SO, .356/.421/.712/1.133
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Total 257 AB, 48 R, 088 H, 18 2B, 2 3B, 23 HR, 62 RBI, 23 BB, 52 SO, .342/.405/.696/1.101
Myers in 2012
vs LT 095 AB, 16 R, 027 H, 06 2B, 2 3B, 06 HR, 15 RBI, 11 BB, 28 SO, .284/.358/.579/0.937
vs RT 293 AB, 50 R, 091 H, 09 2B, 3 3B, 18 HR, 64 RBI, 34 BB, 70 SO, .311/.384/.546/0.930
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Total 388 AB, 66 R, 118 H, 15 2B, 5 3B, 24 HR, 79 RBI, 45 BB, 98 SO, .304/.378/.554/0.932
Both teams played for are in the PCL.
Rizzo 08.1 BB%, 18.3 K%, 0.44 BB/K, .354 ISO, 10 GDP
Myers 10.3 BB%, 22.3 K%, 0.46 BB/K, .250 ISO, 07 GDP
When entering MLB, Rizzo's ISO dropped about half, his average dropped 57 points, but surprisingly, his k rate dropped. If Myer's ISO is cut in half and his average drops 57 points when he arrives in the big leagues, he'd be comparable to Stephen Drew/Kirk Nieuwenhuis, but hopes to put up numbers like Rizzo.
Drew in 2012
79 G, 327 PA, 64 H, 07 HR, 38 R, 28 RBI, 11.3% BB, 23.2% K, .223/.309/.348/.657
Rizzo in 2012
87 G, 368 PA, 96 H, 15 HR, 44 R, 48 RBI, 07.3% BB, 16.8% K, .285/.342/.463/.805
This is a guy we can target and give up something significant for (because he's young and there's room for improvement), especially coming from a franchise that isn't flexible on their payroll. Jeff Francoeur has one more year on his contract, he performed horribly last year. If we were to make a direct trade with the Royals, I think we'd need to take him (hey, we need a RF'er) and Bruce Chen off of their hands to acquire Myers. That would leave enough money for them to take on Garza's estimated arbitration salary in 2013 and leaves us a few pieces we may be able to flip at the deadline, or right away.
I think the Twins would be interested for a year of Chen. There's rumors of a Liriano reunion, but he'll want more money than what they're willing to spend. Delivering them Chen solves that problem, especially for one year, $4.5M [or free if we get a better prospect(s)].
#2
Posted 30 November 2012 - 08:51 PM
I think you are looking at a pretty hefty package in return for Myers/Chen/Francoeur. Is this contingent on Myers playing third, or do you think the Cubs need to find a spot in the outfield for him? The reason I ask is because he's only got about 15 career games with a sub .940 fielding % at third, and I'm not sure if he was moved because he was blocked or because of his defense.
#5
Posted 01 December 2012 - 04:39 AM
He would most likely play LF (if we are able to trade Soriano) or CF where there is a whole currently. I think if we were to wheel-and-deal, where he plays would honestly be dependent on if we sign a third basemen or if Valbuena sticks over there. I hope we still sign Keppinger, because he would add a lot of value to our club.
The Royals rotation is set and they are looking for an upgrade, hopefully ditching payroll at the same time. Nobody wants Hovechar, and Garza is definitely an upgrade from Chen. Gordon, Dyson, and Cain are going to see the majority of playing time out in the OF, so the move would make sense, because Moustakas is a great defender at 3B and Hosmer/Butler will be splitting DH/1B time.
The Royals rotation is set and they are looking for an upgrade, hopefully ditching payroll at the same time. Nobody wants Hovechar, and Garza is definitely an upgrade from Chen. Gordon, Dyson, and Cain are going to see the majority of playing time out in the OF, so the move would make sense, because Moustakas is a great defender at 3B and Hosmer/Butler will be splitting DH/1B time.
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