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Cubs Calendar 12/20/12 - MVP


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#1 Fishin Phil

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 05:31 AM

Cubs Fact:

Ernie Banks is the only Cubs player to win two MVP Awards with the club.
Please don't feed the psychos.

#2 Stinky Pete

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 05:35 AM

Back to back, '58 and '59...

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 07:17 AM

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 07:31 AM

Ernie had great years, and not to be sacrilegious, but...
Milwaukee teammates Hank Aaron and Eddie Mathews finished 2nd and 3rd and took votes away from each other in 1959. Aaron kind of got screwed I think. He finished 3rd.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 08:00 AM

Ernie had great years, and not to be sacrilegious, but...
Milwaukee teammates Hank Aaron and Eddie Mathews finished 2nd and 3rd and took votes away from each other in 1959. Aaron kind of got screwed I think. He finished 3rd.

Do you have any idea what modern statistical measures say about the three players that year?

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 08:20 AM

Well from a hitting standpoint, in 1959 Aaron led the league in OPS and OPS+ -- and by a significant margin over Banks. Though Banks' numbers are great.
Banks: .970, 156
Aaron: 1.037; 182

Aaron was of course a better baserunner, though he hadn't stole a lot of bases at that point or in that season (8 SB, 0 CS). Banks of course played SS which is big.

Fangraphs says Aaron's WAR was 9.0, while Ernie's was 10.4... advantage, Banks!

Addendum: In 1958 Willie Mays had a WAR of 10.7 to Ernie's 9.7. And in 1965, Mays had a WAR value of 11.5. Not too shabby.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 01:12 PM

Spriggs is always keeping this place on point with data and analyses, even in the calendar.




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