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A timeline of trades... like dominoes falling


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#1 Mike Taylor (no relation)

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:41 PM

#1. It all starts with LF Alfonso Soriano to Philadelphia Phillies for LF Domonic Brown. Brown gets regular playing time and shows what he's got.

#2. Early in the season, we trade CF-RF David DeJesus (L), SP Travis Wood (L), 3B Josh Vitters (AAA), & CF Matt Szczur (AA) to San Diego Padres for 3B Jedd Gyorko (AAA) & 1B Matt Clark (L) (AAA).

#3. We trade 3B Ian Stewart (L), 2B Darwin Barney, C Dioner Navarro, SP Matt Garza, & CL Carlos Marmol to the Oakland A's for RF Josh Reddick (L), RP Ryan Cook, LF Shane Peterson (L) (AAA), & 2 PTBNL.

After these trades, we'd have a lineup of:
LF Brown
CF Schierholtz (L) / Sappelt
RF Reddick (L)
1B Rizzo (L)
2B Valbuena (L)
3B Gyorko
SS Castro
C Castillo / Clevenger
SP Samardzija
SP Baker
SP Jackson
SP Villanueva
SP Feldman

#4. We make a package for RF Giancarlo Stanton, SP Ricky Nolasco (if he's still there), and a PTBNL that includes:
LF Brett Jackson (L), CF Tony Campana (L), RF Nate Schierholtz (L), 1B Matt Clark (L), 2B Gioskar Amaya (S), 3B Christian Villanueva, SS Javier Baez, SP Robert Whitenack, & SP Dillon Maples.

#5. If Tampa is under-performing, we strike while the iron is hot and trade for SP David Price (L); offer: 1B Daniel Vogelbach, LF Domonic Brown, SS Junior Lake, 2B Logan Watkins (L), SP Mat Loosen, RP Trey McNutt, & PTBNL (Albert Almora).

We'd finish until the trade deadline with:
LF Shane Peterson (L) / Dave Sappelt
CF Josh Reddick (L)
RF Giancarlo Stanton
1B Anthony Rizzo (L)
2B Luis Valbuena (L)
3B Jedd Gyorko
SS Starlin Castro
C Welington Castillo / Steve Clevenger
SP David Price (L)
SP Scott Baker
SP Jeff Samardzija
SP Edwin Jackson
SP Ricky Nolasco

#6. We flip Nolasco, Villanueva, Feldman, Baker, and replenish our farm system.

#7. We sign 2B Aaron Hill or 2B/OF Ben Zobrist (S), C Jarrod Saltalamacchia (S), and SP Phil Hughes or Jason Vargas. Try to re-sign Scott Baker if he performs well in 2013.

2014
LF Shane Peterson (L) / Dave Sappelt
CF Josh Reddick (L)
RF Giancarlo Stanton
1B Anthony Rizzo (L)
2B Aaron Hill or Ben Zobrist (S)
3B Jedd Gyorko
SS Starlin Castro
C Jarrod Saltalamacchia (S) / Welington Castillo
IF Luis Valbuena (L)
SP David Price (L)
SP Jeff Samardzija
SP Jason Vargas
SP Scott Baker
SP Edwin Jackson
LR Michael Bowden
RP Hector Rondon
SU Ryan Cook
SU James Russell (L)
CL Kyuji Fujikawa
...with a mid season call up of OF Jorge Soler.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 10:17 PM

They would need another pitcher if they signed Phil Hughes and Josh Johnson,or Lincecum maybe. Still kind of nuts but I like it none the less.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 10:18 PM

#6. We flip Nolasco, Villanueva, Feldman, Baker, and replenish our farm system.

This plan would work for the short term, if you could convince other teams of your proposals, but this is where I got caught. I don't see how trading these 4 even comes close to replenishing what you are wanting to give up. I think this works short term, but we are probably screwed long-term with very little help coming from the farm, and will then be stuck in the free agency cycle again.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 10:18 PM

Or re-sign Nolasco and Garza

#5 Mike Taylor (no relation)

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 05:16 AM

#6. We flip Nolasco, Villanueva, Feldman, Baker, and replenish our farm system.

This plan would work for the short term, if you could convince other teams of your proposals, but this is where I got caught. I don't see how trading these 4 even comes close to replenishing what you are wanting to give up. I think this works short term, but we are probably screwed long-term with very little help coming from the farm, and will then be stuck in the free agency cycle again.


Meant to say "and replenish our farm system through the draft."

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:37 PM


#6. We flip Nolasco, Villanueva, Feldman, Baker, and replenish our farm system.

This plan would work for the short term, if you could convince other teams of your proposals, but this is where I got caught. I don't see how trading these 4 even comes close to replenishing what you are wanting to give up. I think this works short term, but we are probably screwed long-term with very little help coming from the farm, and will then be stuck in the free agency cycle again.


Meant to say "and replenish our farm system through the draft."


Wouldn't happen fast enough. You'd be stuck with the current roster for about five years until any real help arrived, and you'd be refilling the farm system with picks from the back of the first round to boot. It'd be 2007 all over again.

I'd rather be a little more patient and build a decade long dynasty than risk everything on one or two huge deals.

That said, I'd put in a standing offer for Stanton of Baez, Vizcaino, and Vogelbach. Arguably, that's three league Top 100 guys. There are only a few teams who would be able to match that. And even if Miami passed, I strongly suspect Stanton will go straight to free agency without signing any additional extensions. The Cubs will be in good shape to open the checkbook when that happens. If they still need him.

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 11:39 PM

I don't want to trade Vizcaino yet. At least not until we know for certain what we have in Vizcaino.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 07:36 AM

Does anyone think the Rangers would trade us Mike Olt for Soriano and one of our numerous SS prospects? i.e. Lake, Amaya, or Alcantara?

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 02:31 PM

Nah. They're stacked at SS they have two of the top young players there in Profar and Andrus

#10 Mike Taylor (no relation)

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 08:38 PM

If we got Stanton somehow, overpaid for Cano and got Olt from Texas, 2014/15 could be a joy to watch.

158 G, 629 AB, 191 H, 12 HR, 073 RBI, 38 BB, 086 SO, 24 SB, .304/.346/.448 - SS Castro
150 G, 550 AB, 150 H, 20 HR, 070 RBI, 70 BB, 120 SO, 20 SB, .285/.360/.430 - LF Soler
161 G, 631 AB, 193 H, 27 HR, 099 RBI, 47 BB, 091 SO, 03 SB, .306/.361/.515 - 2B Cano (L)
150 G, 515 AB, 145 H, 35 HR, 110 RBI, 80 BB, 165 SO, 05 SB, .282/.372/.550 - RF Stanton
157 G, 549 AB, 171 H, 33 HR, 109 RBI, 55 BB, 126 SO, 07 SB, .283/.346/.463 - 1B Rizzo (L)
156 G, 544 AB, 146 H, 30 HR, 115 RBI, 64 BB, 156 SO, 07 SB, .269/.346/.481 - 3B Olt
158 G, 600 AB, 147 H, 15 HR, 045 RBI, 60 BB, 200 SO, 35 SB, .245/.320/.430 - CF Jackson (L)
102 G, 333 AB, 084 H, 13 HR, 038 RBI, 30 BB, 085 SO, 00 SB, .252/.316/.423 - C Castillo




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