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[TWC]

Is the means by which the OAM lost his hand relevant to his motivation for shooting the Shot Man?

[TWC]

Was the OAM's hand loss a workplace-related injury? Was it accidental, or intentional? (duplicative)


Are/were either of the men lawyers at one point or another?

[Cubbie Blues]

Did the other guy commit the act of violence that resulted in the OAM?

No

[Cubbie Blues]

Is the means by which the OAM lost his hand relevant to his motivation for shooting the Shot Man?

Yes

Was the OAM's hand loss a workplace-related injury? Was it accidental, or intentional? (duplicative)


Are/were either of the men lawyers at one point or another?

No
No

[Tommy]

Was there malevolent intent on the part of the OAM when he shot the other guy?

Was there malevolent intent on the part of the other guy when he cost the OAM his arm?

[Cubbie Blues]

Was there malevolent intent on the part of the OAM when he shot the other guy?
Yes

Was there malevolent intent on the part of the other guy when he cost the OAM his arm?
No

[TWC]

Were the OG and the OAM close at the time of the hand losing? Were they friends? (It's already been established that they were not coworkers, relatives, or otherwise involved, I believe.) Or were they complete strangers at the time of the incident?

Had the two seen each other since the incident? Has the OAM been down on his luck since the incident? Did the OG and the OAM's fortunes diverge due to the hand losing incident?

[TWC]

Was the OG attempting to help/save the OAM when the hand incident took place?

[Cubbie Blues]

Were the OG and the OAM close at the time of the hand losing?
No

Were they friends?
No

(It's already been established that they were not coworkers, relatives, or otherwise involved, I believe.)
Correct

Or were they complete strangers at the time of the incident?
Yes

Had the two seen each other since the incident?
No

Has the OAM been down on his luck since the incident?
No

Did the OG and the OAM's fortunes diverge due to the hand losing incident?
Irrelevant
No

Was the OG attempting to help/save the OAM when the hand incident took place?
No

[TWC]

Well, fuckitall, I thought I was on to something...

[TWC]

Hrm...

So, there was no malevolent intent on the part of the OG when the OAM lost his hand -- even though the OG did something heinous (but not negligent, nor accidental) to the OAM to cause the hand loss -- and the means by which the OAM lost his hand *is* relevant to his motivation for the shooting.

Did the OG recognize the OAM before being shot?

Are their current professions relevant? Was the shooting more likely to occur on the subway than anywhere else?

[Cubbie Blues]

Hrm...

So, there was no malevolent intent on the part of the OG when the OAM lost his hand -- even though the OG did something heinous (but not negligent, nor accidental) to the OAM to cause the hand loss -- and the means by which the OAM lost his hand *is* relevant to his motivation for the shooting.

Did the OG recognize the OAM before being shot?

Are their current professions relevant? Was the shooting more likely to occur on the subway than anywhere else?

Do you want me to point out your wrong statements?

Did the OG recognize the OAM before being shot?
Yes

Are their current professions relevant?
No

Was the shooting more likely to occur on the subway than anywhere else?
Sort of

[TWC]

Do you want me to point out your wrong statements?

This is where I get confused:

Did the OAM lose his arm due to a deliberate act of violence? Yes

Did the shootee do something heinous to the shooter to cause the shooting, besides the hand losing? Yes, in a way

Was there malevolent intent on the part of the OG when he cost the OAM his arm? No

Something's not clicking here...

Was there another party involved in the hand incident? Or the shooting?

[Cubbie Blues]

Loss of arm not violent. But was deliberate.

Was there another party involved in the hand incident?
Yes

Or the shooting?
No

[Cubbie Blues]

My wife is now racking her brain on this as well.