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Plausible Cubs' CF Options in 2014


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#16 Kygavin

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 10:21 AM

Kudos to all of you for never mentioning the name Tony Campana.


Oh come on!!! Campana is scrappy even if he weighs less than his bat does

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 02:59 PM

I had a dream where the Cubs signed Bourn for 3 years and $32 million a couple days ago. Weird right?

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 09:25 AM

UPDATE:
Tony Campana was traded to the Arizona Diamondbacks for two teenage pitchers.

Carlos Gomez is signing a 4 year extension with the Brewers.

Michael Bourn - signed 4 years, $48M with the Indians.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 10:53 AM

The annual amount of Gomez's deal (8-10 mil if I remember right) kind of shocked me considering his poor offensive numbers.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 12:42 PM

1.) Jacoby Ellsbury will be 30 years-old next season. He's going to demand huge money; money that will be given to him for the player that he was in his prime, not the player that he will be in the future. Ellsbury's value is linked to his speed. Speed is one of the first things to go as a player enters his 30s. No thanks!

2.) Granderson is too old to invest the kind of money for which he'll be demanding. Once again, GMs need to avoid paying players for what they were in their prime years. Besides, Granderson's future will involve a corner outfield spot.

3.) Brett Jackson has shown nothing that insists he's the future in center field. If he does ever mature as a hitter - which would take a huge leap in ability - Jackson is destined for a corner outfield position.

Junior Lake is an infielder. If the "Hail Mary" transition were to succeed, it would be around 2015. If anything, Lake is the Cubs' future 3B.

Matt Szczur can't hit.

The Cubs need to be inventive, in order to solve their CF dilemma. Their CF for 2014 is on another team's roster/in their organization. Players like Stubbs-Cle,
Parra-Ari, Cain-KC, are interesting possibilities. Whatever the answer, Cubs' brass is going to have to get creative.


#21 Mike Taylor (no relation)

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:18 PM

Jae-Hoon Ha will be another one to look out for in 2014. He's the best defensive outfielder in our organization and he'll be starting CF in AAA this year (I believe).

As for Brett Jackson, he's 4/14 with 5 BB / 5 SO, 2 3B, 1 2B, 4 RBI and 1 SB this Spring (.286/.455/.643/1.097).

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 02:59 PM

UPDATE:

 

Jacoby Ellsbury

47G, 50H, 1HR, 44R, 13SB/2CS, 19BB/27SO, .249/.317/.338/.655, 7.9Spd, .283BABIP, .293wOBA, 0.9WAR

 

David DeJesus

44G, 42H, 5HR, 25R, 03SB/0CS, 14BB/21SO, .296/.363/.507/.870, 6.0Spd, .319BABIP, .376wOBA, 1.5WAR

 

Brett Jackson (AAA)

33G, 29H, 2HR, 14R, 03SB/2CS, 11BB/35SO, .254/.336/.404/.739, 6.1Spd, .351BABIP, .335wOBA

 

Logan Watkins (AAA)

41G, 34H, 4HR, 21R, 04SB/8CS, 29BB/38SO, .233/.367/.418/.785, 5.5Spd, .288BABIP, .356wOBA

 

Matt Szczur (AA)

42G, 50H, 2HR, 28R, 13SB/3CS, 15BB/29SO, .291/.351/.378/.729, 6.7Spd, .336BABIP, .339wOBA

 

Jae-Hoon Ha (AA)

25G, 25H, 1HR, 20R, 06SB/1CS, 13BB/19SO, .305/.408/.402/.811, 6.1Spd, .381BABIP, .377wOBA

 

Ryan Sweeney and Julio Borbon have seen limited play in MLB.



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Posted 30 May 2013 - 05:44 PM

Coco Crisp (2014 Club Option $7.5M)

36G, 39H, 5HR, 10SB/2CS, 27BB/14SO, .273/.378/.476/.853, 7.3Spd, .268BABIP, .368wOBA

 

Rajai Davis

26G, 23H, 1HR, 08SB/1CS, 03BB/17SO, .284/.326/.395/.721, 9.0Spd, .349BABIP, .317wOBA

 

Nate McLouth

45G, 49H, 4HR, 17SB/1CS, 23BB/21SO, .293/.376/.431/.807, 7.7Spd, .317BABIP, .354wOBA

 

(through May 30)



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Posted 30 May 2013 - 08:18 PM

No love for Bogusevic?  He'd be more likely to get an early 2014 shot than Ha or Szczur.



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Posted 31 May 2013 - 02:25 AM

Does he have the range to play center?  I've only seen him playing the corners and 1B.

 

My money's on Coco getting his option declined because the A's already have two CFs in Young and Cespedes



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Posted 31 May 2013 - 03:56 AM

Young's option is more money, though. $11.5M with a $1M buyout. His BABIP is ridiculously low this year, like .200 and only hitting a buck eighty five, with 5 HR. Seems like a Theo & Co "bounce-back, buy-low" special to me. 



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Posted 03 June 2013 - 06:09 PM

I'm just not sold on Jackson - and wouldn't be disappointed to see him shipped out.

Ellsbury would be high on my list from the five above.

Hi,

 

I agree with you on Jackson.  Keep pumping him up and trade him because he isn't improving that much.  I saw him a good bit last year and the problem was not just his swing.  An inordinate number of K's were called and that is a judgment issue on the strike zone.  If one is trying to build a powerhouse, unless he completely turns it around I do not see him as a building block or core player.

 

If he was, he would have stayed in the majors last year.  I see a lot of younger outfileders in the system who will soon be passing him up.

 

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 12:35 PM

Luke thinks we can get David Price for Brett Jackson, Junior Lake, and Austin Reed.

(Price's stock has dropped, due to the injury, arbitration estimate next year, and high ERA)

 

Even if we trade Garza, a Price trade would more than likely happen in the off season (and be similar in salary).

 

The baseball writers are in agreement that we can get at least a top twenty prospect for DeJesus.

(If we add a player, that could bump up that value to a top ten pick)

 

Nate McLouth is our best option in a platoon w/Rajai Davis.

 

The biggest reason is contract size. McLouth has gained value since his 2 year, $4M deal with the Orioles (I think he just wanted out of Pittsburgh). He'll definitely get a boost in salary, say, 3 years, $15M. Rajai Davis would probably get a deal similar to Scott Hairston's. So that would be a combined $7.5M AAV and both provide solid defense and speed. Depending on the moves we make, we could be competitive as soon as next year. You have to be encouraged that with Jorge Soler and later on, Albert Almora, our OF will have some stability. Hopefully, Almora should be ready by the time they're on the last year on their contracts.



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Posted 04 June 2013 - 01:23 PM

I love reading everyone's projections on who will sign with the cubs in the offseason but if I had to make a guess of what the cubs will do in the next 2 offseason's this is what I think happens: CF: I think we combo package Dejesus with Garza this year, also trade Soriano and then the cubs resign Ryan Sweeney with Brett Jackson for cf.  In left field I see the cubs signing a veteran on a 2 year deal someone like Jason Kubel (his option will not be picked up and we get him on a 2yr with a option) and then right field will be Nate Schierholtz/Scott Hairston(until Soler is ready).  3b will be Vitters if he can earn it (I don't think this happens) and I did not include Baez b/c I think he is traded in the offseason.  I believe the cubs will make a solid offer to the rays for Price that will be Pierce Johnson, Javier Baez, and another good but not great prospect.  This would make the 2014 team: Sweeney,Castro,Rizzo,Kubel,Schierholtz/Hairston,Saltalamacchia/Castillo,Valbuena, Barney.  This will be a .500 ball club that could surprise and the big trade of David Price will keep fans happy.  The 2015 ball club is what will start a 4-5 year window to win a world series with the signing of Pablo Sandoval as the big signing.  Almora, Castro, Rizzo, Pablo, Soler, Kubel, Saltalamacchia/Castillo, Arismendy Alcantara (I believe in this kid).  Pitching will be Price,Shark,Appel,Jackson, and Wood.  WOW sign me up lol



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Posted 07 June 2013 - 11:10 AM

2015:

CF Albert Almora / Jae-Hoon Ha

3B Luis Valbuena (L) / Javier Baez

RF Jorge Soler

1B Anthony Rizzo (L)

LF Kris Bryant

C Jarrod Saltalamacchia (S) / Welington Castillo

SS Starlin Castro

2B Arismendy Alcantara (S) / Darwin Barney

DH/BN Josh Vitters

 

SP Max Scherzer (FA)

SP Jeff Samardzija

SP Travis Wood (L)

SP Arodys Vizcaino

SP Kyle Hendricks






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