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#1 calicubsfan007

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 05:55 PM

I watched the game today and was mostly impressed (except with our offense's strikeout totals) with how we did today. But I had a bad feeling when Marmol came into the 9th with a lead. And he did not make me worry any less once he started pitching. For starters, the man kept throwing the damn ball into the dirt and a couple didn't even reach home plate. Then, when he actually didn't hit the dirt with the baseball, he was hitting McCutchen and allowed a single that scored McCutchen. Finally, Marmol looked really out of shape. Maybe he had too many of Hansman's cheeseburgers or something, because that guy was not in the same shape that he was last year. Is he trying not to get traded?

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 06:03 PM

I had a bad feeling when Marmol came into the 9th with a lead. And he did not make me worry any less once he started pitching. For starters, the man kept throwing the damn ball...


This. For a year now. This.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 07:02 PM

In all seriousness, what are we going to do with Marmol? Like Brett said in the recap, this one outing has probably destroyed any trade value he might have had. And we can't continue to have him "save" games. We're going to lose enough as it is without Marmol helping us along.

So what are the real, serious options? Does he get moved to a setup position? Released? Sent to the minors? I'm very serious here. It seems clear to me (albeit on a very slim sample) that Fujikawa has at least some of the stuff that Marmol has lost (or never had). I think Fujikawa can make for a fine closer for the Cubs. But Marmol has to go, first. How does it happen?

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 08:20 PM

In all seriousness, what are we going to do with Marmol? Like Brett said in the recap, this one outing has probably destroyed any trade value he might have had.


One outing doesn't destroy value unless a guy walks off the mound injured. Teams are too smart nowadays to base their entire view of a guy on one day. He's been wild his whole career, this isn't a revelation by any means.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 09:50 PM

This post I created is partial humor and partial genuine concern. Fingers crossed that Marmol steps it up this year.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 10:12 PM

The 9th inning was the only point in today's game that I was happy I had to work this morning and had to DVR the game. That way I was able to fast forward straight to Russel. I know one outing doesn't change his value, but a bad month or two will. I've had a few drinks today, but it seemed like his velocity was down or the fastball was just lifeless, and the sliders that weren't crazy in the dirt seemed to just hang in the middle of the zone. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now, but wow was he awful.

Also, I really wasn't thrilled about seeing the Shark pitching in the 8th. Just seemed unnecessary on a cold day in April. He sure was a pleasure to watch after that first at bat though.
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Posted 01 April 2013 - 10:57 PM

When I saw Marmol pitching in a ST game I swear to God, I had Alfonseca flashbacks. I'm no dainty lass but he's put on a lot of weight. His pitches had no giddy up. How long do they keep giving him the ball?!
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Posted 01 April 2013 - 11:23 PM

When I saw Marmol pitching in a ST game I swear to God, I had Alfonseca flashbacks. I'm no dainty lass but he's put on a lot of weight. His pitches had no giddy up. How long do they keep giving him the ball?!

Okay good, it wasn't just me. That dude just isn't in the same shape he was last year.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 06:06 AM

The 9th inning was the only point in today's game that I was happy I had to work this morning and had to DVR the game. That way I was able to fast forward straight to Russel. I know one outing doesn't change his value, but a bad month or two will. I've had a few drinks today, but it seemed like his velocity was down or the fastball was just lifeless, and the sliders that weren't crazy in the dirt seemed to just hang in the middle of the zone. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now, but wow was he awful.

Also, I really wasn't thrilled about seeing the Shark pitching in the 8th. Just seemed unnecessary on a cold day in April. He sure was a pleasure to watch after that first at bat though.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 08:58 AM

The thing about Marmol is that he is fully capable of putting a long stretch of dominance together. This was one outing followed by a couple of poor spring outings. I’m willing to give him some rope considering his second half of last season. He may struggle to find his command, but when he does he’s quite good.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 11:44 AM

The thing about Marmol is that he is fully capable of putting a long stretch of dominance together. This was one outing followed by a couple of poor spring outings. I’m willing to give him some rope considering his second half of last season. He may struggle to find his command, but when he does he’s quite good.

Seems like such a roll of the dice though.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 11:48 AM


The thing about Marmol is that he is fully capable of putting a long stretch of dominance together. This was one outing followed by a couple of poor spring outings. I’m willing to give him some rope considering his second half of last season. He may struggle to find his command, but when he does he’s quite good.

Seems like such a roll of the dice though.


This team doesn't have much to lose. We need a dominant Marmol if we're going to compete. We need a dominant Marmol if we're going to trade him for something of value. The Cubs need to be patient with him regardless of what we fans think.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 01:04 PM



The thing about Marmol is that he is fully capable of putting a long stretch of dominance together. This was one outing followed by a couple of poor spring outings. I’m willing to give him some rope considering his second half of last season. He may struggle to find his command, but when he does he’s quite good.

Seems like such a roll of the dice though.


This team doesn't have much to lose. We need a dominant Marmol if we're going to compete. We need a dominant Marmol if we're going to trade him for something of value. The Cubs need to be patient with him regardless of what we fans think.


But can he provide just as much value in the 7th or 8th inning? Does he have to be the closer?

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 01:28 PM




The thing about Marmol is that he is fully capable of putting a long stretch of dominance together. This was one outing followed by a couple of poor spring outings. I’m willing to give him some rope considering his second half of last season. He may struggle to find his command, but when he does he’s quite good.

Seems like such a roll of the dice though.


This team doesn't have much to lose. We need a dominant Marmol if we're going to compete. We need a dominant Marmol if we're going to trade him for something of value. The Cubs need to be patient with him regardless of what we fans think.


But can he provide just as much value in the 7th or 8th inning? Does he have to be the closer?


It depends what you think his problem is. If it's getting rattled on the mound, then he would have more value in the 7th or 8th. If yesterday was more of a case of simple command, then he is going to suck anywhere in the pen.

Samardzija said he was having some issues with command and his pitches. Now, someone who is decent at it to begin with is only marginally affected when it's cold.

Someone like Marmol, might be greatly affected by the cold.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 01:46 PM

I agree with Brett though, can't we just have him do the 7th and the 8th to build up his confidence? I think his value will increase more that way.




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