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Why does Valbuena bat so low?


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#1 sittingupmud

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 10:44 PM

New to the forums, so sorry if this has already been discussed and discarded.

But I am legitimately interested, why does Valbuena continue to hit so low in the order? Specifically, why isn't he hitting second?

I don't mean to turn this into Castro bashing or anything, but it seems Valbuena would be a far better choice. Castro doesn't walk, doesn't hit for power, and doesn't steal bases. And right now he doesn't even hit for average (although we might expect that to change).

I realize Valbuena is probably due for some regression, but he's arguably been one of the Cubs' best hitters this year (which is a bit hard to type without wincing).

I know the FO is all about building value. Do they believe he'd falter by getting more plate appearances (hurting any value he may have)?

Does the fact that he's a lefty play into it at all (since it'd be two lefties back-to-back at the top of the order)?

Or would it simply be a matter of rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic? Is it just optimal to get Castro those PAs in what's essentialy a lost season?

 



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Posted 30 May 2013 - 10:55 PM

It would actually be 3 lefties in a row at the top of the order if Valbuena batted 2nd because Rizzo bats 3rd.  Likely it has to deal with the fact that Dale has been breaking up the left handed hitters. The typical line up the Cubs have been using against a RHSP goes L (Dejesus)-R (Castro)-L (Rizzo)-R (Soriano) -L (Schierholtz)-R (Castillo)-L (Valbuena)-R (Barney)-Pitcher.



#3 calicubsfan007

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 11:48 PM

I agree with Cub.  Sveum likes to break up lefties.  If I am wrong on that, correct me.



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Posted 31 May 2013 - 03:59 AM

Same thing will probably happen next year, too. At least he'll move up in the order.

 

CF Free Agent (L)

SS Castro

1B Rizzo (L)

RF Soler

3B Valbuena (L)

C Castillo

LF Free Agent (L)

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 08:24 AM

Yea, I agree with the general sentiment on the board. In order to preserve the L-R-L thing, you have to do it that way. Just so happens that on this team, the best 4 hitters so far have all been left-handed. You could argue for Valbuena and Schierholtz being flipped, but their production has been pretty similar.

 

At a certain point though, you have to consider stacking the top of the lineup with lefties, if they're really that much better than your right-handed hitting group (imagine a team with 4 Joey Votto's and 4 Brendan Ryans, do you go L-R-L-R in that scenario?). But I think the assumption/hope/prayer is that Castro and Soriano will come around eventually.



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Posted 31 May 2013 - 02:57 PM

*Facepalm*

Yeah, I didn't even think about Rizzo up there as well. It makes sense to break up the lefties.

I guess it's just frustrating to concede that Castro is the best option. Right now, even Barney has a higher OBP.

 



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Posted 31 May 2013 - 10:31 PM

I am not overly worried about Castro.  Everyone has slumps.



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Posted 01 June 2013 - 05:22 PM

I would advocate switching Valbuena with Schierholz in the lineup because he does not take enough walks.



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Posted 03 June 2013 - 03:51 AM

Besides, isn't Valbuena a temporary fix?  I don't really feel the need to worry about his batting position if he isn't really going to be here that long.



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Posted 03 June 2013 - 06:05 AM

First off, Welcome Mud. Great first post. Sveum recognizes and has even said that Castro in a good lineup would be batting 7th. With that said, we don't have a good lineup. Therefor we will be dealing with Castro hitting 2nd for a while longer.


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#11 calicubsfan007

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 10:46 AM

How do you do that with the profile name?  Instead of it saying Bleacher Hero, you got it to say things like The Engineer.



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Posted 04 June 2013 - 12:40 PM

What are you talking about?


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Posted 04 June 2013 - 01:10 PM

LMAOOOOO



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Posted 04 June 2013 - 06:23 PM

and whaddya know Valbuena and Castro got flipped in the lineup today against Weaver



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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:06 PM

and whaddya know Valbuena and Castro got flipped in the lineup today against Weaver

 

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