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Where our starting pitchers will be in '14?


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#1 Mike Taylor (no relation)

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 03:02 PM

Just an educated guess, but it seems likes this is what it's going to be...

 

MLB:

#1. Jeff Samardzija

#2. Edwin Jackson

#3. Travis Wood (L)

#4. Jake Arrieta

#5. Barret Loux

LR Carlos Villanueva

LR Chris Rusin (L)

 

AAA:

#1. Kyle Hendricks

#2. Dae-Eun Rhee [Rule 5 eligible]

#3. Brooks Raley (L)

#4. Dallas Beeler [Rule 5 eligible]

#5. Eric Jokisch (L) [Rule 5 eligible]

LR Arodys Vizcaino

LR Alberto Cabrera

 

AA:

#1. Pierce Johnson

#2. C.J. Edwards

#3. Corey Black

#4. A.J. Morris [Rule 5 eligible]

#5. Matt Loosen [Rule 5 eligible]

LR P.J. Francescon

LR Yeiper Castillo [Rule 55 eligible]

 

A+:

#1. Ben Wells

#2. Kyler Burke (L) [Rule 55 eligible]

#3. Ivan Pineyro

#4. Austin Kirk (L) [Rule 5 eligible]

#5. Felix Pena [Rule 5 eligible]

LR Zach Cates [Rule 5 eligible]

LR Michael Heesch (L)

 

Now, some of these pitchers are Rule 5 eligible next year, so we'll have to see who they protect and who they do not.



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Posted 30 July 2013 - 03:51 PM

I think we might lose Kyler Burke in the Rule 5.

#3 Mike Taylor (no relation)

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 04:52 PM

Updated. Rule 55 is minor league free agency.



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Posted 30 July 2013 - 08:42 PM

I don't know if they're ready to give up on Vizcaino as a starter and I really think Cabrera either.

 

Just me I kinda Rusin sticks.  If Arrieta figures it out and Rusin sticks as a starter thats 4 young guys with potential (maybe).  Are they still in talks to resign Baker? And where do you put Grimm.  I also think they may try to sign one year guys and flip them like this year but I like the inbetween guys (Grimm, Arrieta, Rusin) and want to see what they have.



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Posted 30 July 2013 - 08:54 PM

I sort of doubt Wells and Pineryo repeat High A.  

Morris could easily be a bullpen guy to start the season, and I'm not sure on opening Johnson in Tennessee.  Raley I suspect will be in Chicago's bullpen.  

Beeler needs to come back healthy before he gets moved to Triple A.  



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Posted 31 July 2013 - 03:54 AM

Russell gets dealt, Raley replaces him as the LOOGY that Sveum has reduced him to as of recent



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Posted 31 July 2013 - 07:58 AM

Think Villanueva gets in the rotation instead of Loux and Grimm would need to be in there somewhere as well.



#8 Mike Taylor (no relation)

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 08:24 AM

I sort of doubt Wells and Pineryo repeat High A.  

Morris could easily be a bullpen guy to start the season, and I'm not sure on opening Johnson in Tennessee.  Raley I suspect will be in Chicago's bullpen.  

Beeler needs to come back healthy before he gets moved to Triple A.  

 

I really think Johnson and Edwards will be moved up together, as our future 1-2 punch of the rotation.

Raley in the MLB bullpen and Beeler on rehab/AA would make room for Cabrera and Vizcaino in the AAA rotation. Makes sense. Of course, I'm sure the Astros and/or Miami will pick up a Rule 5 we can't protect.



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Posted 31 July 2013 - 10:14 AM

Loux ain't starting for the Cubs next year. He's shown nothing to prove that he could and he just isn't. If he is, say hello to another long losing awful season.

 

1. Price

2. Shark

3. Wood

4. EJax

5. Arrieta

 

BP-Villanueva, Rosscup, Strop, Parker, Raley, Guerrier, Mateo

 

I won't go through all the minors, but I would say Edwards starts at high A next season and ends up in AA by mid to late May. Johnson will be a piece of the Price deal along with Cabrera. JCP will be in Kane County to start. And I agree with Luke if Wells finishes strong, he'll be in AA.

 

BTW, health is obviously the river card but that looks like a damn fine staff for the Cubs next season.



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Posted 31 July 2013 - 01:18 PM

We would be sacrificing all that we worked on if we trade for Price.  Would kill our farm system.



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Posted 31 July 2013 - 01:24 PM

We would be sacrificing all that we worked on if we trade for Price.  Would kill our farm system.

 

I disagree. First, I don't think it would kill the farm system. There is a ton of depth right now. And using that depth to acquire proven major league talent so this team can actually compete sometime soon...that's exactly why you build depth. Not all will pan out. Hell maybe 30-35% will pan out. And there are tons at the same positions (or that can play the same position) Would you think:

 

Trading Pierce Johnson, Alberto Cabrera, Vogelbomb and Mike Olt, plus a couple of filler types for Price was a bad move that cripples the system?



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Posted 01 August 2013 - 08:17 AM

NO WAY on Loux being the 5th starter.  If he is we are in all kinds of trouble.  

The starting 5 in the majors has to be 

Shark, Jackson, Wood, Arrietta, and Grimm. (Rusin- could transition to the pen)

 

Iowa

Cabrera, Hendricks, Rhee, Vizcaino(eventually), Raley (Loux and Struck to pen)

 

Tenn.

Johnson, Edwards, Pineryo, Wells, Loosen?(Corey Black to the Pen)

 

Daytona

Skulina, Little Z, Scott, Pena, Paniagua

 

KC

Maples, Underwood, Masek, Padron, Conception.

 

It will be fun to see how it shapes up.  There could be a ton of movement as we finally have some depth in the pitching ranks. 



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Posted 01 August 2013 - 08:18 AM

Oh I forgot Beeler. Who knows he could really go to the pen, it just depends on how his finder heals. 



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Posted 01 August 2013 - 11:54 AM

I just can't really see either Johnson or Edwards starting at AA. Edwards has 1 A+ start and Johnson has 5. 



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Posted 02 August 2013 - 07:30 PM

We would be sacrificing all that we worked on if we trade for Price.  Would kill our farm system.

 

No more than the Garza trade killed the farm system - which despite the gnashing of teeth across much of Cubdom was actually not at all.

 

That's not saying Price is the right guy to trade for, but the Cubs could swing a deal involving high end prospects without significantly harming their future.






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