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Are these guys Hall of Famers?


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#1 CubbieBoiler

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 04:25 PM

Theres a lot of guys who will be sitting on the HOF border lmk your thoughts on the following. I put mine too.

 

Craig Biggio :  Yes this year or next

Jeff Bagwell: No I just dont think he will ever get over the hump.

Greg Maddux: First ballot yes

Tom Glavine: Second ballot yes

Pedro Martinez: No got out too young

Todd Helton: Yes but it will take 5 or 6 years

Paul Konerko: No never will get over that hump

Mike Mussina: Has the numbers but was out shined by the guys he played with

Randy Johnson: First ballot yes

Frank Thomas: Even though he was never connected to PED I think the era will hold him back

Trevor Hoffman: Yes will but take a few years because of declining closers.

Omar Vizquel: Second year he has the numbers but nothing incredible. 

Pudge Rodriguez: yes first year.

 

Lmk your guys thoughts and any other notable guys who belong on this list. 



#2 wvcubsfan

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 06:43 PM

Craig Biggio :  Yes

Jeff Bagwell: No - PED suspicion

Greg Maddux: First ballot yes

Tom Glavine: Yes

Pedro Martinez: Yes

Todd Helton: Yes but not sure I agree he deserves it.

Paul Konerko: No never should be considered

Mike Mussina: Hall of very good yes, HOF no

Randy Johnson: First ballot yes

Frank Thomas: Yes, Only player in the PED era to get the benefit of the doubt

Trevor Hoffman: No, will get the Lee Smith treatment

Omar Vizquel: Don't think so, but if he gets in it will be a long time.

Pudge Rodriguez: yes



#3 fromthemitten

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Posted 11 August 2013 - 12:16 PM

Craig Biggio :  Should have been in last year.  3,000 hits playing premium defensive positions all his career.

Jeff Bagwell: Yes, PED suspicions are bogus there is no credible link at all.  This pisses me off.

Greg Maddux: Are you fucking kidding me?

Tom Glavine: Yes.  Gonna take him a couple years because of those rough years with the Mets

Pedro Martinez: Yes.  Those peak years were out of whack.

Todd Helton: Veteran's committee guy.  He's going to have a lot of detractors not for PED suspicions, but for playing his entire career in Coors Field which is a PED all in itself.

Paul Konerko: No, White Sox should retire his number though.

Mike Mussina: Nope.

Randy Johnson: Without a doubt

Frank Thomas: Being the "Big Hurt" (literally) derailed him from being a first ballot guy, but as a "clean" guy and his peak years I think he gets in after a couple ballots.

Trevor Hoffman: I don't see it, considering Lee Smith still isn't in.  The only closer I see getting in is Rivera.  May be a Veteran's committee guy.

Omar Vizquel: Absolutely best defensive SS of his era but he'll be a fourth or fifth ballot guy.

Pudge Rodriguez: PED suspicions are going to hurt his case but he falls into the "would be a HOF even if he didn't juice" category for me.



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Posted 11 August 2013 - 04:52 PM

Craig Biggio :  Yes

Jeff Bagwell: No

Greg Maddux: Yes

Tom Glavine: Yes

Pedro Martinez: Yes, those peak years were about the best of my lifetime

Todd Helton: No

Paul Konerko: No

Mike Mussina: Yes

Randy Johnson: Yes

Frank Thomas: Yes

Trevor Hoffman: Borderline, probably not

Omar Vizquel: Eventually, maybe a Veterans Committee, but yes 

Pudge Rodriguez: Yes






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