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#31 Luke

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 08:55 PM

Do you believe that Rizzo and Castro are "core" players going forward ? Can you answer that ?

 

 

Even though both players are far below the league average.

 

 

Rizzo is not below league average.

 

OPS+ is 105, wRC+ is 104.  On both of those metrics 100 should be roughly league average. By fWAR he ranks 14th among first baseman, right in the middle the pack for MLB at that position. 



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 08:56 PM

 

 

 

The Cubs added around fifty million dollars to this years payroll with free agents and international signings.
 
Outside of maybe Nate. The rest of their decisions were horrible.

 
That's interesting.
 
Why are you thinking that signing four or five of the best available international free agents is a horrible decision?  I'll concede that those guys aren't going to help the major league team any time soon, but the best farm systems in the game, the farm systems that belong to teams that having consistent winning teams on the field, tend to spend heavily on international free agents.  It's a good value proposition. 
 
It seems a little strange that on the one hand you want the Cubs to be like those teams and to invest heavily in both the farm system and the major league roster, but on the other hand you state that one of the decisions this front office has made that looks the most like those teams is horrible.  Why the difference?  Why do you think the Cubs signing international free agents is a horrible idea?
That's interesting.
 
I said this year's payroll not next years.
Which would have gone to the question I asked about which FA we should of signed, but you refused to answer that one.

 

How about one's that do not have a track record of garbage and below average numbers, never played in the US, or were not injured when signed, and the one that was terribly overpaid with over a four career ERA. I guess finding pitchers with Jackson's career totals were hard to find at that price.



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 08:59 PM

 

Do you believe that Rizzo and Castro are "core" players going forward ? Can you answer that ?

 

 

Even though both players are far below the league average.

 

 

Rizzo is not below league average.

 

OPS+ is 105, wRC+ is 104.  On both of those metrics 100 should be roughly league average. By fWAR he ranks 14th among first baseman, right in the middle the pack for MLB at that position. 

 

Sorry metrics are terribly flawed. But whatever trips your trigger.



#34 Cubbie Blues

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 08:59 PM

Specifically, who? Not some mythical creature that I have to guess who you are talking abut.

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 08:59 PM

Alright Salami we get it and the act is now tiresome... contribute serious conversation or find a place where this chicken little routine will be considered useful conversation.

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#36 Luke

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 09:00 PM

Sorry metrics are terribly flawed. But whatever trips your trigger.

 

Flawed how?  Which numbers do you prefer to use?



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 09:00 PM

Just walk away guys someone is fishing with tiresome bait.

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 09:00 PM

Rizzo is a core piece, his numbers are the same as last year's except for his BABIP and AVG. Castro has me concerned. I answered your question, but none of mine have met nothing resembling an answer.

I don't believe he's a core piece. You did not provide any facts to support it.



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 09:01 PM

Metrics are far from being terribly flawed. Tey take what happens on the field and quantifies it. Why would the Cubs hire Tango if they are "terribly flawed"?

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 09:02 PM

Rizzo is a core piece, his numbers are the same as last year's except for his BABIP and AVG. Castro has me concerned. I answered your question, but none of mine have met nothing resembling an answer.

I don't believe he's a core piece. You did not provide any facts to support it.
Luke posted the numbers.

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 09:03 PM

 

 

Rizzo is a core piece, his numbers are the same as last year's except for his BABIP and AVG. Castro has me concerned. I answered your question, but none of mine have met nothing resembling an answer.

I don't believe he's a core piece. You did not provide any facts to support it.
Luke posted the numbers.

 

You're right. What am I thinking.  



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 09:05 PM

Rizzo is a core piece, his numbers are the same as last year's except for his BABIP and AVG. Castro has me concerned. I answered your question, but none of mine have met nothing resembling an answer.

I don't believe he's a core piece. You did not provide any facts to support it.
Luke posted the numbers.
You're right. What am I thinking.
At last we are finally getting somewhere.

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 09:05 PM

Just walk away guys someone is fishing with tiresome bait.

 

Sorry Goat. I just don't buy into what's happening to our team. I have a right not to like it.



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 09:07 PM

Just walk away guys someone is fishing with tiresome bait.

 
Sorry Goat. I just don't buy into what's happening to our team. I have a right not to like it.
He wasnt saying that you don't. But, just complaining and not offering solutions or what you think we should have done doesn't add anything.

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#45 MichiganGoat

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 09:09 PM

Just walk away guys someone is fishing with tiresome bait.

 
Sorry Goat. I just don't buy into what's happening to our team. I have a right not to like it.
He wasnt saying that you don't. But, just complaining and not offering solutions or what you think we should have done doesn't add anything.
^^^THIS^^^ just complaining and continuing to complain instead of engage in discourse and support claims with facts is quite trollish.

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