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#1 Oswego Chris

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 11:18 AM

I will keep this relatively short...at least for me....


If the Cubs are seriously looking at trading Samardzija...(Personally I don't think they are shopping him, just listening to teams who come to them)...I would have to blown away by an offer...now these aren't all "advanced" metrics...but still some good measurables



                         STARTS    IP       K/9             BB/9            HR/9             BABIP         LOB%          GB%                



PITCHER 1           34        218.33     8.95         3.09            0.78              .316            74.5              38.4


PITCHER 2           33        213.67      9.01         3.29           1.05              .314             71.7              48.2


Pitcher 2 averaged 94.5 MPH on his fastball last year, Pitcher 1 was at 93.3


I didn't necessarily "cherry pick" these stats( I kinda rushed this), I am sure someone more versed in sabremetrics could even come up with more.


Pitcher 1 is Verlander, Pitcher 2 is our own Jeff Spellcheck Samardzija...pretty similar in many areas...


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Posted 14 November 2013 - 12:05 PM

valid post bro. However, Verlander was seen as having a very down year with "downward" trend being mentioned more than once. He is still good, but he didn't pitch like Verlander of old and was actually the third best pitcher on his own team. Not saying you don't have a valid point, however put in that perspective Shark would be an incredible #3 as well. Had those stats measured up to Hernandez, Scherzer, Kershaw, etc. I would put more weight in it. However, it may make a strong point in a different sense. Verlander was only 30, same age Shark will be when he hits FA, and his steady decline is something of a common factor among hard throwing guys reaching 30s. Maybe a reason to trade Shark now instead of later?

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 04:00 PM

I think most people would like to see Samardzija stay,  but unfortunately we don't know what kind of contract he is looking for. However, we have heard he wants a NTC which is something this front office doesn't do. If no deal is can be reached then the options are trade him now, trade him later before his contract runs out, extend him a QO after his contract runs out, or just let him leave. Out of those last 4 options trading him now could give the cubs the best future return.


The reason there is so much trade talk is the number of rumors he is in. Plus I think people have more fun speculating possible trade returns over contract extensions.

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 04:39 PM

My best offer would be: 


2014: 8 M    (Arb year Age: 29)

2015: 11 M  (Arb year)

2016: 18 M  (First year of free agency)

2017: 18 M  

2018: 18 M w/ team option of 5 M buy out.


So that is guaranteed 60 million for 4 years with an option for 73 M over 5 years.  He made 2.3 M this year.

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