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#1 MichiganGoat

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 11:35 AM

So I consider myself a novice when it comes to using sabermetrics and stats to evaluate players. I typically combine what I see on the field with what I see in the stats. I typically have looked at OPS as a measure to compare a players value, but I know there are other possibly better metrics I should be looking at. I've paid attention to WAR but I just don't know if its all that accurate.

So what metrics to you look at? Which ones do see has having value? Which ones do you think are flawed?

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 11:53 AM

Defensive metrics suck.

That is all.

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 11:54 AM

Also, I have trouble completely trusting proprietary stats like WAR, where the inputs aren't 100% known (case in point, the WAR values on Baseball Reference and Fangraphs are different - sometimes by a considerable amount).

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 02:27 PM

Sabermetrics are great for fan talk and speculation on player performance, and I think it's a huge mistake for any front office to ignore them. I agree with Brett, defensive metrics are garbage and don't take variables into consideration. I like to look at a players' BABIP, late inning pressure situation stats, and runs created when I don't quite buy that he is having a breakout year or to see if they are in decline.

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 03:13 PM

I like ERA+ and BABIP. I also frequently compare RISP avg. to other batting averages... like overall and avg. with nobody on.

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 03:50 PM

Also, I have trouble completely trusting proprietary stats like WAR, where the inputs aren't 100% known (case in point, the WAR values on Baseball Reference and Fangraphs are different - sometimes by a considerable amount).

If I remember correctly, BR and Fangraphs use different formulas, one of which includes UZR.




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