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Ryan Dempster - Where Does He Rank in Cubs History


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#16 fromthemitten

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 09:30 PM

I see him also a guy valued for his "intangibles" and being a good teammate in the locker room. Had a couple good years for the team.

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 12:21 PM

Isn't the WAR stat something that can't be compared from year to year because the bar of "replacement" changes each season?

That is what I thought as well. The disclaimer for WAR that I always heard was that it's only useful from year to year, because the value you are comparing each year against changes every year. The stat is too inconsistent. Greg Maddux's sub 2.00 era seasons were 8 WAR seasons when they occured(94-95). If they had happened three years later, both would have been over 10 WAR seasons. If that makes any sense.

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 12:49 PM


Isn't the WAR stat something that can't be compared from year to year because the bar of "replacement" changes each season?

That is what I thought as well. The disclaimer for WAR that I always heard was that it's only useful from year to year, because the value you are comparing each year against changes every year. The stat is too inconsistent. Greg Maddux's sub 2.00 era seasons were 8 WAR seasons when they occured(94-95). If they had happened three years later, both would have been over 10 WAR seasons. If that makes any sense.

Sure, but that doesn't mean that you can't use WAR to compare across generations. The statistic is comparing the players to others in the league at the same time. So when you compare two players from different times, you are just saying, "Player A was this good relative to his contemporaries and Player B was this good relative to his." Probably more useful than just looking at ERA, which can be deflated or inflated depending on the era.




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