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What is included in player contracts?


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#1 Edgar

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 10:41 AM

So what are the terms of the actual contract? In mostly curious about MLB than any sport but I want to see the difference.

I would think that teams would protect themselves from bad contracts or injuries more that what it seems.

why arent most contracts incentive deals?(would mean more sense bearing injury or production)

Is there anything that happens when a player gets hurt?


Also why isnt much contract restructuring in MLB like there is in the NFL?

IS there a difference between contracts ie.(MLB, minor leagues, first time draftees)

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 10:45 AM

I know that teams take out insurance policies on players with large contracts. They are quite expensive but do pay if a player is injured for an extended period. The Detriot sports talk radio did mention that the payment and savings the Tigers got from Victor Martinez injury helped them sign Fielder.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 10:50 AM

I know that teams take out insurance policies on players with large contracts. They are quite expensive but do pay if a player is injured for an extended period. The Detriot sports talk radio did mention that the payment and savings the Tigers got from Victor Martinez injury helped them sign Fielder.

So insurance covers injuries. So the Mets are actually "saving" money because of Santana who has been out for a year?

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 11:01 AM

So insurance covers injuries. So the Mets are actually "saving" money because of Santana who has been out for a year?

Yes there are insurance plans that cover major injuries, so it is possible the Mets collected something on Santana but not every player have full insurance coverage. Not to mention I hear they are incredibly expensive. So I won't say they saved money, the report with the Tigers was that it helped clear up a few million to get them to the winning bid.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 11:01 AM

1. Incentive based contracts (at least that pay out due to X number of homers hit, having X number of SB, a BA above .XXX, etc...) are not allowed in MLB. The best you can do is kick in options and bonuses for awards and games played, games finished, etc...
2. The MLB and NFL are flipped when it comes to with whom the power lies. In MLB the player's union has a tremendous amount of power which is why you saw some of the changes to the CBA this year. Also, you don't see restructuring because they are all guarranteed contracts. In the NFL, I think most of the contracts are non-guarranteed and beyond that there are few that are 100% guarranteed. In the NFL, all of the power lies with the owners, and until the players get smart and sit out for a full season or two, it will remain there.
3. There is a difference but I don't know enough to articulate it and any further typing would be filled with guesses.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 11:04 AM

Here is a good article about player insurance

http://www.baseballp...articleid=13011

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 11:58 AM

1. Incentive based contracts (at least that pay out due to X number of homers hit, having X number of SB, a BA above .XXX, etc...) are not allowed in MLB. The best you can do is kick in options and bonuses for awards and games played, games finished, etc...
2. The MLB and NFL are flipped when it comes to with whom the power lies. In MLB the player's union has a tremendous amount of power which is why you saw some of the changes to the CBA this year. Also, you don't see restructuring because they are all guarranteed contracts. In the NFL, I think most of the contracts are non-guarranteed and beyond that there are few that are 100% guarranteed. In the NFL, all of the power lies with the owners, and until the players get smart and sit out for a full season or two, it will remain there.
3. There is a difference but I don't know enough to articulate it and any further typing would be filled with guesses.

One thing on incentives - you can't have them based on production. Only games played/finished/started/whatever, and on awards/accolades. I forget the reason, but it's a collectively-bargained limitation. Probably don't want players trying to hit a homer to reach an incentive.

Learned that in my Sports Law class. I remember something from law school!

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 11:59 AM

There's a standard MLB player contract floating out there somewhere, which is the starting point for all contracts. I'm sure if we dug, we could find it.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 12:53 PM

There's a standard MLB player contract floating out there somewhere, which is the starting point for all contracts. I'm sure if we dug, we could find it.


http://mlb.mlb.com/p...cba_english.pdf

Starts on page 222. This is the standard contract for the previous CBA.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 03:53 PM

There's a standard MLB player contract floating out there somewhere, which is the starting point for all contracts. I'm sure if we dug, we could find it.


http://mlb.mlb.com/p...cba_english.pdf

Starts on page 222. This is the standard contract for the previous CBA.


Excellent. Good find.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 04:13 PM

There's other stuff too, some players get an allotted amount of tickets for away games, luxury box for home games, guarantees for hotels (somewhat similar to a musical act's rider), and sometimes some really weird shit: http://www.mentalflo.../archives/53446

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 05:58 PM

There's other stuff too, some players get an allotted amount of tickets for away games, luxury box for home games, guarantees for hotels (somewhat similar to a musical act's rider), and sometimes some really weird shit: http://www.mentalflo.../archives/53446

Hah, sucks for John Lackey.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 06:48 PM


There's other stuff too, some players get an allotted amount of tickets for away games, luxury box for home games, guarantees for hotels (somewhat similar to a musical act's rider), and sometimes some really weird shit: http://www.mentalflo.../archives/53446

Hah, sucks for John Lackey.

That just gave a little more confidence about Theo


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Posted 22 February 2012 - 05:09 PM

Yeah between that and the Curt Schilling "don't get fat" clause he had two pretty brilliant contracts on this list.




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