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Cespedes/Darvish & why was Dejesus/Maholm signed?


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#1 cubs1967

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 10:57 AM

For 21m per year; Cubs could of signed Cespedes (.269 5HR 18RBI) at 9M for 4 yrs and Darvish for 12M (3-0 ERA below 3.00)for a total of 21M. Both are in their primes and under 30 and neither deal exceeds 5 yrs. Granted, Darvish had 60M handicap tag attached to Japanese team; however Ricketts could get all that back after 2014 when the WGN TV contract expires.

Instead for 10M per year; a mere 11M less; we get Maholm (ERA over 8) plus Dejesus; he over 30 and no power. The question is why?

Granted, Cespedes and Darvish would not help the Cubs to the playoffs in 2012; however would be 2 building blocks to go along with Castro-BJax-Rizzo-Lahair-Garza-Smardz-W Catillo-Vitters for 2013 and beyond.

Why did Theo short change his offers; Cespedes already said he would of come to Cubs if the deal had been for 4 yrs not 6 yrs since they scouted him the most & the Cubs will contend sooner than the A's & Darvish had NO control over who he had to sign with.........

SO, who ordered payroll 40M lower since Ricketts took over?

It's still April; but those 2 would look good in pinstripes and both were alot easier to sign then a Fielder or Pujols and lot less years. (not to mention the marketing opportunities both would of presented for the Cuban and Japanese population).

Those look like 2 BIG misses already by team Theo.

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 11:27 AM

For Cespedes it was about the number of years of control; w/ Darvish it was a blind bid so everyone was blown out of the water by the bid the Rangers put in. Noone else was even close to the $60M that it took just to get his rights from his Japanese club.

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 11:38 AM

For Cespedes it was about the number of years of control; w/ Darvish it was a blind bid so everyone was blown out of the water by the bid the Rangers put in. Noone else was even close to the $60M that it took just to get his rights from his Japanese club.

Exactly, Ricketts had no idea the Rangers would bid that high and I'm confident that our bid was #2 or #3 and it made no sense to sign Cedoedes for 4 years and then either lose him or be forced to sign him for a monster contract once the Cubs were competative. It would be great to have them right now but it's early and the MLB hasn't had a chance to adapt and find the weakness in them both. Let's revisit this at the end of the season.

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 12:43 PM

Yup, there is an insane likelihood that neither will be studs come 2014. I wanted them both but the money that was spent/years of control surrendered priced them out of being Cubbies. Also, when you talk Darvish, you HAVE to include the $ the Rangers sent to Japan which makes his pricetag closer to $20M a year.

MG is right, it is far to early to annoit these guys as anything more than a curiosity. This time last year Sam Fuld was tearing the cover off the ball...

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 01:00 PM

Ah Superman Stan

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 01:22 PM

Feel like it's fair to add that it's still April, in their first year of playing in the bigs. Each could continue to be awesome, but they could just as easily flame out within a month.

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 02:22 PM

Feel like it's fair to add that it's still April, in their first year of playing in the bigs. Each could continue to be awesome, but they could just as easily flame out within a month.


One can only hope! Personally, I thought Cespedes was getting a lot of undeserved attention, and was amazed at the contract that he received.. was even a little relieved that the Cubs didn't get "stuck" with another huge, long-term contract. However, SO FAR (yeah, you're right Brett, it's still early), he looks like he is worth ever cent, and then some. Hopefully this isn't one of those "DOH!" moments that us Cubs fans will continue to chew on for years to come.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 11:31 AM

Lest we forget too that guys like Maholm and Stewart probably more so than DeJesus were picked up I believe in part because of the likely possibility that they can be traded at the deadline to further continue retooling the Cubs farm system.
The other angle to consider is that the Cubs may have change modes had they gotten Darvish. As as been pointed out, it was a closed bid auction. Had they won rights to Darvish, guys like Fielder for example were still yet unsigned. With Garza, Dempster and Darvish atop the rotation, perhaps the focus would have been less on stockpiling guys with a higher upside in an effort to save money and gain prospects. As it is, the emphasis has been to replenish the farm system, lighten the payroll load and begin the rebuilding process.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 12:32 PM

As it is, the emphasis has been to replenish the farm system, lighten the payroll load and begin the rebuilding building process.

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