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Theo was hesitant to make the Rizzo deal


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#1 justinjabs

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 07:42 PM

This came up in a recent Bruce Levine chat:


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How much authority does Hoyer have - you hear Theo's name in every talk about the Cubs

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I believe Jed Hoyer has a tremendous amount of input on what happens with the Cubs. As a matter of fact, the trade that they made for Rizzo was aggressively pushed by Hoyer and I'm told Epstein was skeptical of the deal, not because he didn't believe in Rizzo's talent, but because he didn't want to trade a power arm in Cashner. Hoyer is no puppet.


Thoughts? I think it's interesting that Theo was hesitant to make the trade that I've seen quite a few of us call the best of this offseason.

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 08:17 PM

If you look at the makeup of the pen after trading Marshall, you can certainly understand Theo's reluctance.

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 07:33 AM

Both of these guys have been high on Rizzo since he was a skinny lad. I have no doubt that the injury to Cashner last year and our crowded OF were contributing factors to getting this deal pushed through. Also, our revolving door at 1B has been a problem since DLee's decline.

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 07:44 AM

Considering i was the camp of "It only cost us Cashner" when i heard the deal announced, i was suprised to read this yesterday also.

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 01:19 PM

From the outside this trade looks like a huge win for the Cubs. And I was shocked it didn't take more. But maybe not for the FO, considering their top tier young pitching depth at the time. When Cubs fans were originally speculating I was thinking it would take Jackson and Cashner for Rizzo. Still not quite sure why the Pads couldn't get more than Cashner...

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 04:34 PM

Thoughts? I think it's interesting that Theo was hesitant to make the trade that I've seen quite a few of us call the best of this offseason.

I remember feeling pretty poor in the starting-pitching department last year.

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 05:19 PM

I remember feeling pretty poor in the starting-pitching department last year.

Ha! Ya think?!

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Posted 20 May 2012 - 12:55 AM

How can you be down on our starting pitchers last year? Casey Coleman and James Russel are sure fire Cy Young canidates. Rodrigo Lopez and that other guy would be aces on most staffs. You sir, are out of your mind.
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Posted 20 May 2012 - 12:57 AM

Show some respect for Dougie Damn Davis, would you?
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Posted 20 May 2012 - 03:32 AM

Show some respect for Dougie Damn Davis, would you?


Can he catch? We have an opening.
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 12:42 PM


Show some respect for Dougie Damn Davis, would you?


Can he catch? We have an opening.

His wind-up annoyed me to no end. It was like watching a wooden roller coaster getting lurched up the first hill. Then when he finally released the ball you realized it was actually a kiddy coaster you were watching

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 12:47 PM



Show some respect for Dougie Damn Davis, would you?


Can he catch? We have an opening.

His wind-up annoyed me to no end. It was like watching a wooden roller coaster getting lurched up the first hill. Then when he finally released the ball you realized it was actually a kiddy coaster you were watching

Heh. Nice comparison. Very nice.

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