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#53482 Rizzo?

Posted by Nate on 22 August 2013 - 11:13 AM

Ok, It seems to me the 3rd hitter in an order has the best power (used to 4 but it seems to have changed).  Bonds, Sosa, McGwire, Cabrera, etc.  Also, you want your next best guys 4th and 5th.  Its not really to protect the 3rd hitter but to increase runs.  If your 1 and 2 are your OBP guys you want your power hitters hitting with guys on base.


Bonds is an exception not the rule though.  He changes the arguement because of his gaudy OBP (he walked a lot).  This could potential be skewd though because he had guys on base (Aurila batting second with a .369 OBP) in front of him and his HR would have lead to more actual runs.  Normally you would want you best OBP guys higher but the type of walks change things.


I don't know why you think the fifth best hitter goes in the 3 hole.  Can someone explain this.  I just can't see why there is so much importance on the 4 hitter.  That spots seems to have slipped in recognition over the years.  Also, order of importance seems arbitrary.  Is it more important to get on base or hit a guy on base in.  You need them both to get the run.  Also, some would argue your 8 is more important than you 7.  They might be pitched around to get to the pitcher in a run scoring situation or you need them to hit to get your pitcher up so you don't start the next inning with an out.

#53042 WTF Jesse Rogers

Posted by Nate on 16 August 2013 - 06:43 AM

So, if the Cubs are no good in 2014, I guess you could make the case that Baez might as well learn baseball playing with the best players, if you can afford to wait out his growing pains.  His K rate, so far, is a bit higher at Tennessee than Jackson's was, but he's also younger than Jackson was, and has more power, so there's no reason not to put him on the half-season at Tennessee, half season at Iowa, September callup for 2014, assuming things progress.  But there's also a case to be made, if the Cubs aren't competitive, to try skipping that AAA move and trotting him out in Chicago every day after the All Star break.  Assuming that he will struggle mightily, like Jackson, Vitters and Rizzo, will he emerge in 2015 better for the experience and coaching?  As long as you don't psychologically break the guy (if that's what's even wrong with Jackson), why not?


The thing about the three case studies you've laid out is that Jackson failed and guys fail.  It just happens.  Castro was pre-Theo and I don't think he would have skipped AAA under this regime.  He's hadbeen working on his BB% and I think he could have been working on that in AAA and been more ready for the majors.  Of course being an all star his first two seasons is a nice arguement against.  Hopefully next year he'll be back to that.  Rizzo, under Theo and Jed in the BOS and SD systems, progressed at a similiar pace to Baez stopping AAA then heading to the Padres.  He struggled, got traded, went back to AAA, recovered, and had a good year last year. He's regressed this year (I know his peripherals explain some of that) but I think he'll be ok.  Young players have ups and downs.  I think its a plan that works and should for Baez.  Also, if they want him up he needs to have some time at 3rd, 2nd or outfield and with the article on Bryant maybe third isn't his position.


I also, think it should for Bryant.  Which is why having him as the Cubs starting 3B seems crazy.

#51548 The Prophet's Scoreboard

Posted by Nate on 26 July 2013 - 10:10 AM

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