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patg006

Member Since 20 Aug 2013
Offline Last Active Aug 31 2013 08:12 PM
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In Topic: So, positives?

22 August 2013 - 07:05 PM

It's impressive that in two years of the message board's existence we've been (mostly) able to avoid this type of front-page nonsense/flame wars in the vein of CUBS SUCK!  (Outside of the expected, but common, overreactions on the Game Day threads.)

 

It's a shame to see it.

Fastest way to change this?

 

Start winning...


In Topic: Rizzo?

22 August 2013 - 02:03 PM

Actually, when it comes to the Tigers, it would probably be to their advantage if Cabrera and Fielder were #1 an #2 in the lineup.  More at-bats by their best OPS guys = more runs = more wins.

 

If you dont think a line up is constructed to cause fits to a pitcher, you miss a fundamental part of baseball.

 

Well, kid, you're wrong about that.  Pitchers (and their coaching staffs) have long scouting reports on all the hitters they face.  They pitch (or attempt) to a hitter's cold zones.  If Hitter A can't hit an inside fastball to save his life, and has a tendency to swing wildly at the low, out-of-the-zone pitches, that's what he's gonna see regardless of whether it's Barry Bonds or Darwin Barney on deck.

 

Evidence?  Post Soriano trade (July 26,) Rizzo has had 93 at bats, 16 hits, with a whopping .172 average and 13 walks; so a .311 obp.

 

That's not evidence.  Those are just numbers.  Rizzo has struggled since late July.  That is a fact.  You claim that it's because pitchers are pitching to him differently.  Prove it.  Look at the logs of pitches that Rizzo has seen since July 26 and tell he how they differ from those during the first half of the season.  That is where you've staked your claim.  Let's see what you've got before you start congratulating yourself on how much you've "shown me up".  Please try to stay on task.

 

I'm assuming Miggy/Prince 1-2 is a joke.  

 

If player A cant hit inside fastballs but happens to be expecting a pitcher to paint the inside with fastballs, he would have to adapt, wouldnt he?  THat's whats becoming a successful hitter in the big leagues is about.  You get hot at the plate and pitching adjusts, you get cold, you readjust.  Well good hitters do that.  

 

If you got a man on 2nd and batter #3 (Rizzo) is up with one out and Soriano on deck, who are you going to pitch to?  THe intangibles of 'cold zones' are overhyped, you play 2K too much.  Batters will know a pitcher with a good fastball is gonna try and beat them whereever with their fastball.  I can load a scenario too.

 

If pitchers only focus on 'cold zones' as you suggest, then Alphonso Soriano should be batting 0 because every pitcher would know to throw outside breaking balls in the dirt he'd golf club and miss at.

 

Oh, and before July 26 Rizzo was batting .250 with an OBP of .340.  Complete drop in production, yet Nate Scheirholtz's production has gone up?  I wonder why?  Pitchers pitching around Rizzo to take their chances with Nate?  

 

Nah......Nate just has no cold zones......to think pitchers would consider him less of a threat and more likely to throw him more stuff to hit because he has no history of anything else besides being a bench player in the Bay is completely absurd......

 

Cold zones everybody.  Remember that.  2K baseball is akin to the real life, everyday mlb


In Topic: Rizzo?

22 August 2013 - 10:12 AM

 

Soriano getting traded really is screwing him, nobody is backing him up in the line up now...Nate sees all the pitches.

 

Oh, please, please, show some evidence for this claim.  I'd love to see it.

 

The myth of lineup protection continues...

 

 

Right, Soriano batted 4th in the line up pre-trade because it was good for his health....masterful logic there

 

If you dont think a line up is constructed to cause fits to a pitcher, you miss a fundamental part of baseball.

 

Why not bat Prince Fielder lead off then instead of behind Miggy Cabrera by this piece of genius?! 

 

Evidence?  Post Soriano trade (July 26,) Rizzo has had 93 at bats, 16 hits, with a whopping .172 average and 13 walks; so a .311 obp.

 

Those are the kinds of stats I want for my potential future at 1B and 3rd in the line up.

 

That's twice you've asked me for evidence and twice you've looked like a fool.  Cant wait for round 3


In Topic: Rizzo?

22 August 2013 - 08:54 AM

Ok, so last night was a good night.  He's been up and down and who knows.  But what if this is the start of a turn around?  He hit a ton of homers in April, 2 or 3 amonth since until August with 5 so far.  His average has been bad.

 

But let's say he finish strog.  Hits 300 or so and 5 or ten more home runs and ends up around .250 with 25 to 30 HR and maybe 85 to 95 RBI.  Do you think that is a successful season for a guy in his first full season?

 

I honestly think it wont happen.  Sorry, but his yearly trend shows the next 5 day forecast will be two days of 0-fer-4 with a walk, one day of 1-3 with a single and a walk, one 0-5 day with no walk, and an 0-3 day with 2 walks.

 

The beginning of the season was bad, he has made minor improvements, but--I dont see him finishing around .250.

 

Soriano getting traded really is screwing him, nobody is backing him up in the line up now...Nate sees all the pitches.


In Topic: So, positives?

22 August 2013 - 08:51 AM

 

 

 

Okay can this thread just die the concept of meaningful discourse is not present, this is just turning into trying to talk to Skip Bayless - impossible but I'm sure some members of this thread just love (said very sarcastically) Skip debate skills.

 
Not to 'be that guy,' but you're not exactly adding anything meaningful to it.  Just kind of find it funny you say nothing meaningful is being discussed and you're adding to it.
 
Salami wants it better, we all do.  Some of us want it now, because this is a game that windows of opportunity are short and noncontention is prolonged.  
Nowhere on our 'Cubs fan membership' cards does it say we're not allowed to disagree or hate something the front office does.
Before you start talking about someone not adding anything, you may want to look at how many posts they have. It may give some indication of how long someone has been around and therefor how much they have contributed in the past. Also, if you would take a look under his Avatar you will notice he is a moderator and that is exactly what he was attempting to do.
Oh but that would actually be logical, why would we want to actually attempt do something like that? Better to just join a community and then troll the hell out of it.

 

 

Not trying to troll, just want to talk baseball...

 

If a certain poster formerly from cbs ever joins, then I'd be tempted to troll him specifically.

 

Otherwise I'll do my best to be respectful to others; doesn't mean I wont disagree.


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