Arenado Rumors from the Rockies Perspective: Trade Now is “Highly Unlikely,” and Also Extremely Complicated

As always, when trade rumors flare up, it’s good to get as many perspectives as possible – it’s all rumor data we can sift through and try to discern some reasonably likely version of reality.

Specifically, it’s useful to get local perspectives, any time something pops up nationally or from one side of the equation – like the rumors yesterday emanating nationally and out of Chicago about Nolan Arenado. Specifically, Jeff Passan said that Arenado would love to be on the Cubs (a notable desire given his no-trade rights), and Jesse Rogers said the Cubs and Rockies had discussed a one-for-one swap involving Arenado and Kris Bryant.

But what are the reports saying in Denver? Is that stuff squaring?

Thankfully, Rockies beat reporting Patrick Saunders had a Q&A lined up and decided to take the opportunity to open with a discussion of various Arenado rumors:

Although Saunders did not directly address anything with respect to Bryant and the Cubs, he did – with confidence – share some very notable things:

  • There have been various trade talks, but the Rockies are still motivated to win right now, which would necessarily impact any return. They are seeking a “solid, established player” as well as prospects. Moving Arenado is not about rebuilding or dumping salary – it’s mostly about the uncomfortable situation.
  • The irony there, I’d point out, is that Arenado’s unhappiness literally stems from the Rockies not doing enough to win right now. So they’ve shoved themselves in a ridiculous situation where the reason their star wants to leave is because he feels like they don’t want to win right now … and yet in any trade, the Rockies would be trying to unload their best player (because of that unhappiness) and still trying to win right now? It’s nonsensical, but it sure does help explain why the kind of Bryant swap discussed yesterday makes sense to the Rockies (even if we outsiders don’t really think it *should* make sense to them).
  • All that said, Saunders reports that multiple sources tell him a pre-Spring Training trade is highly unlikely. I think that’s probably true, given how complicated it is to pull off a deal involving so many moving parts, such star power, and so much money. Instead, if the Rockies stink in the first half, a midseason trade is more possible.
  • That last part sure would put the Cubs in a weird spot if they, for example, hang onto Bryant and are competitive come midseason. Could they justify a trade at that point for Arenado if it meant staying over the luxury tax? Would they try to do both things at once – add Arenado to keep winning, but also somehow cut major salary? – even while competitive in the middle of the season? Sure feels like that might be the ONE scenario where you could see the front office and ownership scrapping The 2020 Plan and deciding they might just have to try to get under the luxury tax next year.

    The long story short here is that I do think we have a pretty good sense at this point on what is motivating the Rockies, and why there hasn’t been movement. They want a whole lot of conflicting things – to win right away, to make Arenado happy, to not spend money, to trade Arenado for win-now pieces – and that doesn’t exactly lend itself to coherent and actionable trade talks.

    Gut says it is indeed highly unlikely that Arenado is traded before Spring Training, but then it becomes extremely likely he’s shopped aggressively in-season to a contender that (1) he wants to go to (no-trade rights), (2) is willing to risk his opt-out after 2021 or is willing to pay him to waive it, and (3) can take on the vast majority of his remaining contract. That pool of teams could wind up being extremely small, so the Rockies are taking a huge risk not making a move now if one is available. But that does seem the most likely course of action. Who knows. Maybe they’ll shock everyone and win a lot of games in the first half, rendering a lot of this moot. (Doubtful.)

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    Brett Taylor is the Lead Cubs Writer at Bleacher Nation, and you can find him on Twitter at @BleacherNation and on LinkedIn here. Brett is also the founder of Bleacher Nation, which opened up shop in 2008 as an independent blog about the Chicago Cubs. Later growing to incorporate coverage of other Chicago sports, Bleacher Nation is now one of the largest regional sports blogs on the web.

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