Joe Maddon Offers His Very Early Batting Order, With Kyle Schwarber on Top

Oh this is gonna be fun.

Today, we have some actual, real life, 2017 baseball stuff to discuss: The Lineup!

And considering that constructing one’s own lineup is everyone’s favorite offseason, message board activity – after proposing theoretical trades for Mike Trout, that is – this should be good.

Back on the December 7, we learned that Kyle Schwarber may be set to take over Dexter Fowler’s spot a top of the Cubs batting order in 2017.

And not a week later, Jed Hoyer indicated his support for that plan, suggesting that Schwarber’s professional approach at the plate – and the added bonus of starting every game off with Schwarber, Kris Bryant, and Anthony Rizzo – may be too attractive to pass up.

[adinserter block=”1″]

And then just after that, we really landed on something good when Brett proposed a flexible top four in the order, wherein Ben Zobrist would lead off against left-handed pitchers, and Kyle Schwarber would lead off against righties. It’s a good plan and the reasoning stretches beyond having the platoon advantage (you should check that out).

But the preferences of me, Brett, and even Jed Hoyer (to some extent) are all less important than the ideas of one, sometimes unpredictable, man and manager, Joe Maddon. Recently, Maddon shared his vision for the Cubs lineup against right-handed pitchers at ESPN and Cubs.com, at least as it exists today:

  1. Kyle Schwarber, LF (L)
  2. Kris Bryant, 3B (R)
  3. Anthony Rizzo, 1B (L)
  4. Ben Zobrist, 2B (S)
  5. Addison Russell, SS (R)
  6. Jason Heyward, RF (L)
  7. Wilson Contreras, C (R)
  8. Pitcher
  9. Jon Jay, CF (L)

First, let’s tackle some of the more obvious items. Schwarber is leading off, as rumored, and Bryant/Rizzo stay fixed in the two and three spots of the order. Zobrist and Russell are in the same spots they were for most of last season, but Jason Heyward is hitting a bit higher than he did by the end of last year.

[adinserter block=”2″]

Which brings me to my first point, the balance of the lineup.

Maddon has never hidden his preference to alternate lefties and righties in the order, and with two switch-hitters last season (Zobrist and Dexter Fowler), it was never much of a challenge, either. This year, of course, Fowler is in St. Louis, BUT he’s being replaced by a platoon of Albert Almora and Jon Jay (and sometimes Jason Heyward). That means that although neither one is a switch hitter, the Cubs should still get the platoon advantage against starting pitchers, and can alternate handedness nearly as often as they did last season.

However, neither Almora nor Jay, as we pointed out, will be leading off like Fowler did. Instead, Maddon may elect to move the pitcher back into the eighth spot of the order, and plop his center fielders down in the nine-hole – like he did (with various players) for much of 2015. Maddon’s reasoning, however, has more to do with his new leadoff hitter, Kyle Schwarber, than anything else.

With Jay and his .352 career on base percentage in the ninth spot of the order, Kyle Schwarber should get a few more chances with at least one runner on base than he would otherwise. By that logic, however, why not do this last year? Well, Schwarber is a lot more of a slugger than Dexter Fowler is/was, so hitting with runners already on base could be potentially much more important for the former than the latter.

[adinserter block=”3″]

But if you’re more of a traditionalist, fear not: Maddon hasn’t quite committed to this structure just yet. Instead, he suggested that he’ll allow “the geeks” take look at it first, before making any decisions.

And that likely goes for the entire lineup.

Consider that, while balancing lefties and righties is important, the overall performance of each player will dictate where and often they bat, as well. I’m tentatively expecting a nice bounce back year at the plate for Jason Heyward, but if his bat doesn’t come all the way back around and Willson Contreras continues to obliterate baseballs … well, then maybe the lefty/righty thing goes out the window after the front four. In addition, this lineup is obviously missing Javy Baez, but Maddon is well aware of his young second baseman, and implied to ESPN and Cubs.com that Baez will get plenty of starts and will always be kept in mind.

But as far as January lineups go … I have to admit it: I like this one quite a bit.

[adinserter block=”5″]

If everyone simply played to their career norms – which is not really that bold of a presumption, given the youth in the lineup (i.e. no one should be past their peak, besides maybe Zobrist (and I won’t bet against that guy anytime soon)) – then the first seven spots of the lineup are basically occupied by All-Stars. After that you have the pitcher, which every NL team deals with, and a nice center field platoon with a mix of on-base skills (Jay) and contact skills (Albert Almora).

It’s like I’ve somehow forgotten that this team was the best team in baseball last year, and projects to be about the same once again. Come on, spring.

written by

Michael Cerami began covering the Chicago Cubs for Bleacher Nation as a part-time contributor in 2015. One year later, he joined Bleacher Nation full-time, covering the Chicago Cubs and Major League Baseball. Today, Michael runs Bleacher Nation, contributing as a writer (Cubs, MLB) and an editor for all sections of the site, including the Chicago Bears, Bulls, and Blackhawks, as well as MLB, NBA, NHL, and NFL. In 2019, Michael was the co-host of NBC Sports Chicago's Cubs Post-Game Show Outside the Ivy. You can find him on Twitter/X @Michael_Cerami

more cubs news

Steele is Feeling Really Good Overall, Offensive Lull, Pitcher Updates, and Other Cubs Bullets

The Little Boy has a special ceremony at school today, so the schedule is a little atypical for me. Hopefully the Cubs beat the Braves, take the series, and that'll put a great cap on the day. The 7th inning...

Cade Horton Continues to Improve at Triple-A Iowa, and His Latest Start Was His Best

I'd forgotten that, in addition to the talent and experience difference in jumping from Double-A competition to Triple-A competition, there are a couple logistical changes for players. First, there is the automated balls and strikes system (fully automated half the...

Kyle Hendricks Takes His Bullpen Demotion Like an Absolute Champ

Is there a more model Major Leaguer or better example-setter than Kyle Hendricks? I really don't think so. Two days ago, the Cubs bounced the veteran right-hander from their starting rotation. It was a true demotion, as his general ineffectiveness...

At Least Porter Hodge’s Debut Was Incredible

There's not a whole lot you're gonna want to take away from last night's loss to the Atlanta Braves, outside of the first six innings from Justin Steele, which were actually pretty good (just pretend in your mind that he...

Enhanced Box Score: Braves 9, Cubs 2 – May 22, 2024

If you didn't actually watch this game, you might be worried about Justin Steele. After all, how can anyone have been anything other than "really bad" with five earned runs to their name? Well, I'm here to tell you he...

Pre-Gamin’: Cubs vs Braves (6:40 CT) – Lineups, Broadcast Info, Game Thread

CUBS LINEUP — The Chicago Cubs won their opener against the Braves last night, which means they have a chance at a series win as soon as tonight! And if they manage to win this game, they'll also guarantee themselves...

Adbert Alzolay Went for a Second Opinion on His Forearm Injury (UPDATE)

[ankin_law] From a very happy post about the Chicago Cubs' bullpen to a more unhappy one. Adbert Alzolay, placed on the Injured List about 10 days ago because of a forearm issue, is now getting a second opinion from a...

Cubs Farm Report | May 22, 2024: Trio of Home Runs Not Enough for Iowa on Tuesday

Pete Crow-Armstrong hit a monster blast, and Matt Mervis and David Bote also added home runs on Tuesday, but it wasn't enough as Iowa fell to Indianapolis. That and more in today's Cubs Farm Report. Cubs Farm Report | May...

Jed Hoyer on Pete Crow-Armstrong’s Demotion-But-Not-Really-A-Demotion

Pete Crow-Armstrong, who homered immediately upon being optioned back to Triple-A Iowa, is already putting together another good game as we speak. It would not be a surprise if he continues to hit very well at Iowa, given that he...

Updated Top-50 Rankings Feature Three Cubs Prospects

ESPN's Kiley McDaniel updated his top-50 prospect list to account for early season performances and scouting, as well as graduations. For the Chicago Cubs, that means Pete Crow-Armstrong is off the list (graduation), Jordan Wicks is off the list (McDaniel...

Latest News

Celtics vs. Pacers: Free Live Stream, TV Channel, How to Watch

In Game 2 of the Eastern Conference Finals, the Boston Celtics will meet the Indiana Pacers.Last time out, the Celtics bested the Pacers 133-128 in OT on Tuesday. In the Celtics' victory, Jayson Tatum put up 36 points (and added...

Tigers vs. Blue Jays Prediction: Expert Picks, Odds, Stats & Best Bets – Thursday, May 23, 2024

The Detroit Tigers (23-26) and Toronto Blue Jays (22-26) meet Thursday at Comerica Park, with first pitch at 6:40 PM ET on BSDET. The Tigers are -111 moneyline favorites for the contest, however, the Blue Jays are favored against the...

Orioles vs. White Sox Probable Starting Pitchers – May 23

The Chicago White Sox (15-35) begin a four-game series against the Baltimore Orioles (29-18) on Thursday at Guaranteed Rate Field. First pitch is at 7:40 PM.This contest's pitching matchup is set, as the Orioles will send Grayson Rodriguez (4-1) to...

Milwaukee Bucks Mock Draft: Deer Snag 2 Promising Role Players, Starting with a Massive Center

In the 2024 NBA Draft, the Milwaukee Bucks are in a prime position to strengthen their roster and build for the future with two solid picks at their disposal. This Milwaukee Bucks Mock draft focuses on adding the best player...

Cade Horton Continues to Improve at Triple-A Iowa, and His Latest Start Was His Best

I'd forgotten that, in addition to the talent and experience difference in jumping from Double-A competition to Triple-A competition, there are a couple logistical changes for players. First, there is the automated balls and strikes system (fully automated half the...

Cavaliers Fire Head Coach JB Bickerstaff

Initial reports stated the Cavs would review JB Bickerstaff's performance after the second-round series loss to the Celtics, and it appears that process has concluded. ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski reported this morning that the Cavaliers are parting ways with head coach...

Tigers vs. Blue Jays Probable Starting Pitchers – May 23

The Detroit Tigers (23-26) and the Toronto Blue Jays (22-26) square off at Comerica Park on Thursday at 6:40 PM ET, starting a four-game series.This contest's pitching matchup is set, as the Tigers will send Jack Flaherty (1-3) to the...

What is a Same Game Parlay? A Look at the Popular Bet Type

It has taken sports betting by storm in recent years thanks to sportsbooks like DraftKings and FanDuel. We are talking about the same game parlay. Let's break down what the bet type is, how it works, and more as you...

Kyle Hendricks Takes His Bullpen Demotion Like an Absolute Champ

Is there a more model Major Leaguer or better example-setter than Kyle Hendricks? I really don't think so. Two days ago, the Cubs bounced the veteran right-hander from their starting rotation. It was a true demotion, as his general ineffectiveness...

Best NBA Prop Bets Today – Thursday, May 23, 2024

In a Thursday NBA playoff schedule that includes just one contest, the Indiana Pacers versus the Boston Celtics is the only way to see the NBA today.There are typically lots of NBA player prop bets offered for each and every...

more cubs news